Sand Dancer
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More than perfect? Is that possible?
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Solution to homosexuals is by government executions according to Pastor.
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More than perfect? Is that possible?
JDMS
Academic Workhorse
If it's not natural, why do parents, pastors and society at large have to work so hard to tell people it's wrong? Why are so many people bisexual or homosexual if you just let them be?
Sure, the Bible might pretend it isn't natural, but from a biological perspective it's just a part of the human spectrum.
paradox
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So your answer is, "what ever one wants it to be" because there is no agreement among believers anyway?
But I asked how do you think (not others) explain OT eschatology?
What's the point of your test? I could use google for anything I don't know and how would you know I'm being honest with you?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Gay meant happy, joyous. I was alive in the era when the term changed.
Cosmos-intérieur
Member
Don't confuse arrogance with pride.
pride is healthy not haughtiness
pride is healthy not haughtiness
Cosmos-intérieur
Member
In french our have two word for pride orgueil and fierté.
Fierté its naturelle and good .
as in the sense "I am proud of your efforts my son" on the other hand orgueil refers to a completely different concept "he is too proud to recognize that I am right"
Fierté its naturelle and good .
as in the sense "I am proud of your efforts my son" on the other hand orgueil refers to a completely different concept "he is too proud to recognize that I am right"
ppp
Well-Known Member
All that calling oneself a Christian means in the real world that we all inhabit is that one belief eves that there is a god, that one is born sinful and that Jesus is the way and the door to salvation from the wages of blah blah blah.
It says nothing else about you. It certainly does not say that your beliefs are sensible, moral or correct.
ppp
Well-Known Member
Such is the nature of language.
ppp
Well-Known Member
"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a *** — a idiot." Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens
Over th centuries it has had several earnings
samtonga43
Well-Known Member
What makes you think I am pretending it is not Christianity, Policy?
Some Christians shout about what the Bible proves or does not prove.
Some atheists shout about ALL Christians doing this or believing that.
It's the same logical fallacy.
I guess you didn't read that the test was open-book, meaning that you are free to refer to scripture either from a paper Bible or digitally online. Furthermore, why is that an appropriate answer from you but not from me? And why shouldn't either of us be free to consult useful resources? In my profession, we used reference books and searched archives repeatedly. If I wanted to discuss the Ten Commandments, I would look them up despite having a basic understanding of what they say. The first few are about God, a couple about stealing, lying, coveting, one about honoring the sabbath and one about honoring parents. But if I were in a discussion of the subject other than one like this, I'd have the text in front of me.
The eschatology thing was too open-ended. Various writers on the subject can't agree on what comprises eschatology. You wanted three sentences, and it seemed like you were preparing to grade it according to your own subjective understanding of what the question was asking for. It's also an irrelevant topic to me, and not a fit test of biblical competence. Where the believer and the skeptic disagree is in areas like internal contradictions, errors in science and history, prophecy, and the like. That's where the skeptic becomes most proficient in biblical matters even if he's an ex-Christian.
When I was a Christian, I studied the theology - the things believers believe that assume the existence of the biblical god and that the scriptures are its revelation. What did Elijah say and do? What did Isaiah prophecy? What do the psalms teach us? What are the signs of the end times? Eschatology goes into this category. None of that matters to me any more for obvious reasons, just as I suspect that like me, you don't care what the analogous answers are in Islam.
When I say that most skeptics understand the Bible better than most believers, I'm not discussing the theology. I'm talking about the ability to understand what any given passage means. I'm talking about the disagreements believers and unbelievers routinely have over the meaning of scripture. Unbelievers aren't going to argue theology except possibly where it affects their lives, as with the abortion discussions, for example. They don't care about whether baptism should be by sprinkling or immersion, nor what weekday the sabbath falls on, and wouldn't get involved in such a discussion. Nor one on Old Testament eschatology. That's theology as I've defined it. I realize that some use a broader definition to include the Bible as literature and the cultural impact of the Bible through history, but separate those two out because they're academic topics that, unlike doctrinal disagreements between believers, might be of interest to an unbeliever.
Too bad you weren't willing to take my quiz. We could have compared and discussed our answers. It might have been instructive for both of us.
ppp
Well-Known Member
The last line of your post to which I was replying.
Ok. I retract the word shout and replace it with claim.
What exactly is the fallacy?
Truth in love
Well-Known Member
There is a massive uptick in open hate around our society.
ppp
Well-Known Member
They keyword there being open.
One could as well say that what you say there is hate speech and you should go to jail because of that.
I don't think Bible says "people should be executed because they happen to have been born gay". No one is born gay.
Sorry, I think that is false. Bible God's will is written in the Bible and can be seen in the Bible.
Then you deny that God's will is written in any other scripture, yes? Or that God's will can be written by God directly into the hearts of individual humans, yes? Only what is in the Bible is God's will, yes? (So that if any more Canaanites show up, we should kill them and rape their daughters).
Please show why this is true.
And you know that how, exactly?
ppp
Well-Known Member
You wish.
