Etritonakin
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Life forms on earth are essentially mass-produced.
Humans awaken (regardless of what people believe happened previously) within a body and mind which are already extremely complex and capable.
We, as individuals, had no choice or ability to decide until that point -and increased in such afterward.
Humans are also one of many life forms within many environments (possibly throughout the universe) which are all made of the same basic elements listed in the periodic table -which are themselves all made of the exact same things in different proportions/arrangements -which once did not exist as such, and were all produced by what we call the singularity/big bang -after which the universe and all therein essentially self-assembled for the most part (from what we know thus far). There could have been no TRUE variables OVERALL (even localized environmental variables would have been inevitable OVERALL) -unless or until self-awareness/creativity existed/developed. We know from our own example that self-awareness/creativity did develop -allowing for the inevitable course of things to be altered by conscious decision. Therefore, the development of self-awareness/creativity was inevitable.
Before the formation of the elements, there must have existed something which could become logically arranged AS the elements. As even our selves have the ability to rearrange and even disassemble the elements, we know that those smaller components can be arranged OTHERWISE -even if we have not yet identified the most basic component/s.
Can the most basic/pre-elemental components be/become arranged as a "self" without first being/becoming arranged as the elements?
Anything which is in any way complex must be composed of that which is most simple. The most simple components I can imagine logically would be the "real" equivalent of "1" and "0". As we have learned, they can essentially be arranged as anything -and complex arrangements and systems are dependent upon the existence/development of previous arrangements and systems.
Anything which can be arranged similarly can function similarly. As a simple example... three atoms might be arranged as a triangle -and three bowling balls made up of an extreme number of atoms might also be arranged as a triangle. The same principle applies to dynamic systems. Anything which is able to perform similar simple functions can be arranged to perform similar complex functions.
Before the otherwise-inevitable course of the most simple components can be altered, self-awareness/creativity must inevitably develop. If such were not inevitable, it would be impossible.
Such a self developing from that level of simplicity would not simply awaken within an already-complex body and mind -but would slowly awaken as a self each and every necessary step along the way.
Our "evolution"/develoment (this is not to say creativity was not involved) happened little by little over time to individual self-replicating life forms -eventually resulting in us and other present life forms.
Can you imagine what it would have been like for all such steps leading to self-awareness/creativity to happen to one life form?
How does self-awareness/creativity develop? Dynamic interaction, increasing complexity and increasingly-complex feedback/action-reaction. It is that which exists inevitably becoming AWARE that it exists due to those things. That might seem like an extreme oversimplification, but all things developed from the most extreme simplicity possible.
(I did begin thinking along these lines when considering whether or not God did develop as the sum of all things -and personally believe an overall self necessarily developed and preceded/made possible all else, but some of this could actually apply to other possible pre-elemental life forms, so I'll address other things in other posts)
Humans awaken (regardless of what people believe happened previously) within a body and mind which are already extremely complex and capable.
We, as individuals, had no choice or ability to decide until that point -and increased in such afterward.
Humans are also one of many life forms within many environments (possibly throughout the universe) which are all made of the same basic elements listed in the periodic table -which are themselves all made of the exact same things in different proportions/arrangements -which once did not exist as such, and were all produced by what we call the singularity/big bang -after which the universe and all therein essentially self-assembled for the most part (from what we know thus far). There could have been no TRUE variables OVERALL (even localized environmental variables would have been inevitable OVERALL) -unless or until self-awareness/creativity existed/developed. We know from our own example that self-awareness/creativity did develop -allowing for the inevitable course of things to be altered by conscious decision. Therefore, the development of self-awareness/creativity was inevitable.
Before the formation of the elements, there must have existed something which could become logically arranged AS the elements. As even our selves have the ability to rearrange and even disassemble the elements, we know that those smaller components can be arranged OTHERWISE -even if we have not yet identified the most basic component/s.
Can the most basic/pre-elemental components be/become arranged as a "self" without first being/becoming arranged as the elements?
Anything which is in any way complex must be composed of that which is most simple. The most simple components I can imagine logically would be the "real" equivalent of "1" and "0". As we have learned, they can essentially be arranged as anything -and complex arrangements and systems are dependent upon the existence/development of previous arrangements and systems.
Anything which can be arranged similarly can function similarly. As a simple example... three atoms might be arranged as a triangle -and three bowling balls made up of an extreme number of atoms might also be arranged as a triangle. The same principle applies to dynamic systems. Anything which is able to perform similar simple functions can be arranged to perform similar complex functions.
Before the otherwise-inevitable course of the most simple components can be altered, self-awareness/creativity must inevitably develop. If such were not inevitable, it would be impossible.
Such a self developing from that level of simplicity would not simply awaken within an already-complex body and mind -but would slowly awaken as a self each and every necessary step along the way.
Our "evolution"/develoment (this is not to say creativity was not involved) happened little by little over time to individual self-replicating life forms -eventually resulting in us and other present life forms.
Can you imagine what it would have been like for all such steps leading to self-awareness/creativity to happen to one life form?
How does self-awareness/creativity develop? Dynamic interaction, increasing complexity and increasingly-complex feedback/action-reaction. It is that which exists inevitably becoming AWARE that it exists due to those things. That might seem like an extreme oversimplification, but all things developed from the most extreme simplicity possible.
(I did begin thinking along these lines when considering whether or not God did develop as the sum of all things -and personally believe an overall self necessarily developed and preceded/made possible all else, but some of this could actually apply to other possible pre-elemental life forms, so I'll address other things in other posts)