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Socialism -- a pathway to disaster

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Well that's saying it!
Archbishop Viganò: An Open Letter Warning President Trump As The Election Approaches

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò October 30, 2020

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OPEN LETTER
To the President of the United States of America
Donald J. Trump


Sunday, October 25, 2020
Solemnity of Christ the King

Mister President,

Allow me to address you at this hour in which the fate of the whole world is being threatened by a global conspiracy against God and humanity. I write to you as an Archbishop, as a Successor of the Apostles, as the former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America. I am writing to you in the midst of the silence of both civil and religious authorities. May you accept these words of mine as the “voice of one crying out in the desert” (Jn 1:23).

As I said when I wrote my letter to you in June, this historical moment sees the forces of Evil aligned in a battle without quarter against the forces of Good; forces of Evil that appear powerful and organized as they oppose the children of Light, who are disoriented and disorganized, abandoned by their temporal and spiritual leaders.

Daily we sense the attacks multiplying of those who want to destroy the very basis of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, freedom of education and business. We see heads of nations and religious leaders pandering to this suicide of Western culture and its Christian soul, while the fundamental rights of citizens and believers are denied in the name of a health emergency that is revealing itself more and more fully as instrumental to the establishment of an inhuman faceless tyranny.

A global plan called the Great Reset is underway. Its architect is a global élite that wants to subdue all of humanity, imposing coercive measures with which to drastically limit individual freedoms and those of entire populations. In several nations this plan has already been approved and financed; in others it is still in an early stage. Behind the world leaders who are the accomplices and executors of this infernal project, there are unscrupulous characters who finance the World Economic Forum and Event 201, promoting their agenda.

The purpose of the Great Reset is the imposition of a health dictatorship aiming at the imposition of liberticidal measures, hidden behind tempting promises of ensuring a universal income and cancelling individual debt. The price of these concessions from the International Monetary Fund will be the renunciation of private property and adherence to a program of vaccination against Covid-19 and Covid-21 promoted by Bill Gates with the collaboration of the main pharmaceutical groups. Beyond the enormous economic interests that motivate the promoters of the Great Reset, the imposition of the vaccination will be accompanied by the requirement of a health passport and a digital ID, with the consequent contact tracing of the population of the entire world. Those who do not accept these measures will be confined in detention camps or placed under house arrest, and all their assets will be confiscated.

Mr. President, I imagine that you are already aware that in some countries the Great Reset will be activated between the end of this year and the first trimester of 2021. For this purpose, further lockdowns are planned, which will be officially justified by a supposed second and third wave of the pandemic. You are well aware of the means that have been deployed to sow panic and legitimize draconian limitations on individual liberties, artfully provoking a world-wide economic crisis. In the intentions of its architects, this crisis will serve to make the recourse of nations to the Great Reset irreversible, thereby giving the final blow to a world whose existence and very memory they want to completely cancel. But this world, Mr. President, includes people, affections, institutions, faith, culture, traditions, and ideals: people and values that do not act like automatons, who do not obey like machines, because they are endowed with a soul and a heart, because they are tied together by a spiritual bond that draws its strength from above, from that God that our adversaries want to challenge, just as Lucifer did at the beginning of time with his “non serviam.”

Many people – as we well know – are annoyed by this reference to the clash between Good and Evil and the use of “apocalyptic” overtones, which according to them exasperates spirits and sharpens divisions. It is not surprising that the enemy is angered at being discovered just when he believes he has reached the citadel he seeks to conquer undisturbed. What is surprising, however, is that there is no one to sound the alarm. The reaction of the deep state to those who denounce its plan is broken and incoherent, but understandable. Just when the complicity of the mainstream media had succeeded in making the transition to the New World Order almost painless and unnoticed, all sorts of deceptions, scandals and crimes are coming to light.

Until a few months ago, it was easy to smear as “conspiracy theorists” those who denounced these terrible plans, which we now see being carried out down to the smallest detail. No one, up until last February, would ever have thought that, in all of our cities, citizens would be arrested simply for wanting to walk down the street, to breathe, to want to keep their business open, to want to go to church on Sunday. Yet now it is happening all over the world, even in picture-postcard Italy that many Americans consider to be a small enchanted country, with its ancient monuments, its churches, its charming cities, its characteristic villages. And while the politicians are barricaded inside their palaces promulgating decrees like Persian satraps, businesses are failing, shops are closing, and people are prevented from living, traveling, working, and praying. The disastrous psychological consequences of this operation are already being seen, beginning with the suicides of desperate entrepreneurs and of our children, segregated from friends and classmates, told to follow their classes while sitting at home alone in front of a computer.

In Sacred Scripture, Saint Paul speaks to us of “the one who opposes” the manifestation of the mystery of iniquity, the kathèkon (2 Thess 2:6-7). In the religious sphere, this obstacle to evil is the Church, and in particular the papacy; in the political sphere, it is those who impede the establishment of the New World Order.

As is now clear, the one who occupies the Chair of Peter has betrayed his role from the very beginning in order to defend and promote the globalist ideology, supporting the agenda of the deep church, who chose him from its ranks.

Mr. President, you have clearly stated that you want to defend the nation – One Nation under God, fundamental liberties, and non-negotiable values that are denied and fought against today. It is you, dear President, who are “the one who opposes” the deep state, the final assault of the children of darkness.

For this reason, it is necessary that all people of good will be persuaded of the epochal importance of the imminent election: not so much for the sake of this or that political program, but because of the general inspiration of your action that best embodies – in this particular historical context – that world, our world, which they want to cancel by means of the lockdown. Your adversary is also our adversary: it is the Enemy of the human race, He who is “a murderer from the beginning” (Jn 8:44).

Around you are gathered with faith and courage those who consider you the final garrison against the world dictatorship. The alternative is to vote for a person who is manipulated by the deep state, gravely compromised by scandals and corruption, who will do to the United States what Jorge Mario Bergoglio is doing to the Church, Prime Minister Conte to Italy, President Macron to France, Prime Minster Sanchez to Spain, and so on. The blackmailable nature of Joe Biden – just like that of the prelates of the Vatican’s “magic circle” – will expose him to be used unscrupulously, allowing illegitimate powers to interfere in both domestic politics as well as international balances. It is obvious that those who manipulate him already have someone worse than him ready, with whom they will replace him as soon as the opportunity arises.

And yet, in the midst of this bleak picture, this apparently unstoppable advance of the “Invisible Enemy,” an element of hope emerges. The adversary does not know how to love, and it does not understand that it is not enough to assure a universal income or to cancel mortgages in order to subjugate the masses and convince them to be branded like cattle. This people, which for too long has endured the abuses of a hateful and tyrannical power, is rediscovering that it has a soul; it is understanding that it is not willing to exchange its freedom for the homogenization and cancellation of its identity; it is beginning to understand the value of familial and social ties, of the bonds of faith and culture that unite honest people. This Great Reset is destined to fail because those who planned it do not understand that there are still people ready to take to the streets to defend their rights, to protect their loved ones, to give a future to their children and grandchildren. The leveling inhumanity of the globalist project will shatter miserably in the face of the firm and courageous opposition of the children of Light. The enemy has Satan on its side, He who only knows how to hate. But on our side, we have the Lord Almighty, the God of armies arrayed for battle, and the Most Holy Virgin, who will crush the head of the ancient Serpent. “If God is for us, who can be against us?” (Rom 8:31).

Mr. President, you are well aware that, in this crucial hour, the United States of America is considered the defending wall against which the war declared by the advocates of globalism has been unleashed. Place your trust in the Lord, strengthened by the words of the Apostle Paul: “I can do all things in Him who strengthens me” (Phil 4:13). To be an instrument of Divine Providence is a great responsibility, for which you will certainly receive all the graces of state that you need, since they are being fervently implored for you by the many people who support you with their prayers.

With this heavenly hope and the assurance of my prayer for you, for the First Lady, and for your collaborators, with all my heart I send you my blessing.

God bless the United States of America!

+ Carlo Maria Viganò
Tit. Archbishop of Ulpiana
Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America

Archbishop Viganò: An Open Letter Warning President Trump As The Election Approaches - OnePeterFive
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
It's not really... cough, cough... socialism Bernie is pushing. :rolleyes:

So healthcare is the problem, for millions of Americas and a single payer system is the promised cure.

Transitioning to a universal healthcare system is going to be costly — in terms of dollars — no matter what. But by adopting a single-payer system, Americans would be forced to endure high costs that aren’t calculated in dollars: long wait times, rationed care, and few choices beyond the government-controlled system.

The innovation, quality improvements, and timely care offered by competing private firms would be largely destroyed by adopting a single-payer system. Although these advantages have been only partially preserved by multi-payer systems that allow some of the advantages of a free marketplace, those now clamoring for a single-payer system would have us believe this all must be abolished in favor of near-total government control.
Single-Payer Healthcare Is The Worst Kind Of Universal Healthcare. - Center for Individualism


More government control does not necessarily translate to better healthcare.

Do you guys really believe this stuff?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Again, stop cherry-picking 3rd world examples and look at other developed, 1st world countries like Sweden, Germany, Japan, etc. Compared to many of them, *we* are the 3rd world country.

Australia. We always get forgotten because we're an island. Plus people are jealous of our good looks...ahem...
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
They're capitalist countries.

No one is turning the US into Communist Cuba though. Sheesh.
It would be a democratic, capitalist country running some social welfare programs. Just like it already is. But in some areas...health in particular...you're currently poorly served despite an enormously high level of investment.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Meh? Meh?
What kind of eye gouging Scrooge jerks have their citizens pay a fee for a goddamned ambulance? Do you also have to pay whenever you call the firefighters or the police?
Services cost money.
Someone always pays.
The only question is who & when.
Btw, the "meh" was about Lewis trying to strike up an argument I wasn't making.


Do you like the geometric progression of line length above?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Services cost money.
Someone always pays.
The only question is who & when.
Btw, the "meh" was about Lewis trying to strike up an argument I wasn't making.


Do you like the geometric progression of line length above?

I'm not trying to strike up an argument, merely offering my opinion. Do with it as you will.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Archbishop Viganò: An Open Letter Warning President Trump As The Election Approaches

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò October 30, 2020

viganocrest-188x300.jpg


OPEN LETTER
To the President of the United States of America
Donald J. Trump


Sunday, October 25, 2020
Solemnity of Christ the King

Dear Mister President,

I, a swivel-eyed right-wing loonball, am writing to you because I care deeply about civil liberties. Really. This is how people who care about civil liberties talk. A massive global conspiracy is underfoot - enacted by a cabal of global elitists and so I appeal to you, billionaire president of the most powerful country on Earth, to fight the holy war against them. They even have a cartoonish name for this plan - it is called the Global Reset and it's something to do with Bill Gates and probably that Jew Soros. It will involve the end of Western society and many people will be locked up in death camps. This is all very secret and these people are more powerful than anyone could imagine but luckily it turned up on my facebook feed the other day.

Please, don't lose the election. Joe Biden is clearly a front for the socialists who back him and are somehow also behind the World Economic Forum. Also, I'm a friggin retired Catholic Archbishop and he gives me the creeps. Have you seen him sniff hair? Ughh.

The gospels talk of lots of totally irrelevant crap that has nothing to do with any of this but if I know anything it's that the Pope Franco is one of them. He's a Deep Church infiltrator for Deep Charity or Deep Humanitarianism. Jesus would hate that cause he hates Deep stuff. He walked on water after all.

Anyway, I'll do my bit to terrify people into voting for you.

p.s. what's with all these darkies rioting? I tell you what, the Deep State are behind this or my name is not Carlo.

God bless America!

Yours, in scummery and senility


Archbishop Charlie Vigano

Eh? I could totally pass as a psychotically demented Archbishop.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Do you guys really believe this stuff?

What I believe is that the government is really bad at business management. I've seen nothing to convince me that the US government would be able to effectively take care of our health system.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What I believe is that the government is really bad at business management. I've seen nothing to convince me that the US government would be able to effectively take care of our health system.
This is why we'd still need a private option with single payer.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Services cost money.
Someone always pays.
The only question is who & when.
Btw, the "meh" was about Lewis trying to strike up an argument I wasn't making.
Yeah that’s why we have taxes, duh. An emergency service shouldn’t cost extra, jeez.

Do you like the geometric progression of line length above?
It’s quite nice, if I’m honest. Like a poem or stanza.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
What I believe is that the government is really bad at business management. I've seen nothing to convince me that the US government would be able to effectively take care of our health system.

It doesn't need to be fish nor fowl, though. Even a cursory glance at health models around the world shows this.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
It doesn't need to be fish nor fowl, though. Even a cursory glance at health models around the world shows this.

I suspect there is something wrong with our medical system. The costs. Hard to really put a finger on it though because everyone blames everyone else. I don't think the government can afford the cost of health care without having a way to regulate costs. They seem unable or unwilling to do that.
 
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