This is why we'd still need a private option with single payer.
Which is totes possible.
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This is why we'd still need a private option with single payer.
For me it's not about right vs wrong.Yeah that’s why we have taxes, duh. An emergency service shouldn’t cost extra, jeez.
"Totes"?Which is totes possible.
I suspect there is something wrong with our medical system. The costs. Hard to really put a finger on it though because everyone blames everyone else. I don't think the government can afford the cost of health care without having a way to regulate costs. They seem unable or unwilling to do that.
"Totes"?
For me it's not about right vs wrong.
Health care will evolve towards being largely free to the customer
(setting aside paying for it with taxes.)
It's inevitable.
My only hope is that private care will still be available too as a Plan B.
I agree that the rampant cost of drugs in the US market is a huge issue.
But you're already paying way, way, way more than other countries, so it's worth noting that socialised elements within healthcare doesn't need to increase cost. It's a different way of spending the money.
We're at risk of something more federalized.Generally any Australians you talk to would assume a private element would be available, since it works that way here. It's our 'normal'.
And some of the public services are provided by private hospitals. So a private hospital can be providing care to private patients (usually holding private health insurance) and public patients via Medicare.
I think we have to deal with the cost first. IMO you can't simply set up a single-payer system and hope for the best.
I'm utterly lost.Nah...I've seen American reality tv. I assume you all talk like that, so I was trying to be nice, and speak in your language.
Cray Cray, right?
I'm utterly lost.
Guh...buh....I suppose you must be one of those Americans who speaks English then.
I shall endeavour to comport myself accordingly in the future, good sir.
Ours is. But it’s mostly a racket. You can “skip the queue” on private and use it for elective procedures. Which is fine. But sometimes you have to be specific with your plans, lest you pay fees for physical therapy without needing it.For me it's not about right vs wrong.
Health care will evolve towards being largely free to the customer
(setting aside paying for it with taxes.)
It's inevitable.
My only hope is that private care will still be available too as a Plan B.
Are people blind?
How did you go from point 'a' to point 'b'? What does this have anything to do with what we are talking about? You have lost me here.The democratically elected socialist government of Salvador Allende was overthrown with US assistance. Are you blind to that? Or do you consider such interference acceptable? Would it be acceptable for the US government to be overthrown in a foreign supported coup d'état? Or is it only acceptable when it's the US doing the interfering?
Your OP cites your experience in South America as the basis to argue that socialism leads to "disaster." This seems to me to be sadly ironic, given that America's ideology (capitalism) has been the cause of so much "disaster" globally (including in South America) through its regime change interventions, carried out to implement or protect this ideology over many years. I cited Allende as simply one (well known) example of this.How did you go from point 'a' to point 'b'? What does this have anything to do with what we are talking about? You have lost me here.
Your OP cites your experience in South America as the basis to argue that socialism leads to "disaster." This seems to me to be sadly ironic, given that America's ideology (capitalism) has been the cause of so much "disaster" globally (including in South America) through its regime change interventions, carried out to implement or protect this ideology over many years. I cited Allende as simply one (well known) example of this.
Mine also. I consider capitalism to be a global disaster, historically for the working class and going forward, for the biosphere. We shall have to agree to differ.i think we are mixing two things that aren't congruent.
Capitalism hasn't been the disaster globally, it has been a help globally. American intervention has been both bad and good. Imagine what would have happened if America hadn't intervened in WWI. Governments with a socialist agenda have also intervened in other countries too.
My position on socialism still stands.