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Should we allow this in Europe?

Discussion in 'European Politics' started by Bob Jones, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Bob Jones

    Bob Jones Prove It!

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    Children across the Netherlands are learning to hate gays as Islamic primary schools operating across the country distribute anti-gay literature which teaches students that Allah destroyed an entire people because of their homosexuality. Reported by the Voice of Europe.
    Is this hate speech?
     
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    When Geert Wilders was in Milan with his friend Salvini he loosened up, he said whatever he wanted...because in his country he is literally gagged.


     
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    A number of scriptures could be classified as containing hate speech, so I would say technically yes.

    ETA although it depends on whether they are called to leave it to Allah to do the destruction or whether they are calling on the people to act on behalf of Allah.
     
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    Fundamentalist Christians are taught just the same, in far more schools, yet this is not mentioned. The number of muslim schools in the Netherlands seems to be about 50, out of several thousand. It is not clear that all of them distribute anti-gay literature.

    This is just more of your nasty propaganda.
     
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    As always there's another side to this. In some countries gays or (more likely)
    gay supporting activists are targeting businesses, schools and the like. And
    there's a growing challenge to freedom of expression, freedom of religion etc
    coming from these people or their supporters.
     
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    Possibly. How could anyone give any other answer based on such limited and unconfirmed information? It obviously depends on exactly what they’re actually doing and saying, though I wouldn’t rely on “Voice of Europe” as a reliable source.
     
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    Any reliable sources for this?
     
  8. ChristineM

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    Rather like the christian hatred of gays, an abomination that is prevalent on this very site?

    BTW Voice of Europe is rated an extreme right wing and unreliable source
    Voice of Europe - Media Bias/Fact Check
    "A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news."​
     
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    Ignoring the fact that the source The Voice of Europe is a racist website.

    This should not happen and is not condoned, it happens in the UK, US, etc., it is roundly condemned by most people.
     
  10. Bob Jones

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    It is true reported all over the media. Are you suggesting that the VOE is lying?
     
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    No, I'm saying they spin every story to involve an anti-muslim/racist angle.
    If they start running articles about white christian anti-gay bigots, then I'll take them much more seriously.
     
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    History was my worst subject.

    In the Bible God did the killing. Some people would "love", God to show off again, I think, as finally they would have proof that "God exists". Bit extreme proof if you ask me, but...

    As with Crusaders I don't know, I was not there, but always got the feeling it was not God doing the killing part

    As with Muhammad and his armies I also was not there, but what are armies for anyway.

    So although I am bad in History, my guess is that if they teach in school certain humans need to be killed (Allah wants this) then probably they won't wait for Allah to finish His job. They are humans after all.

    If Crusaders killed then I guess Muslims will do the same. Not leaving the dirty work to God
     
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    Some people are too gullible and some are too blind

    This news is true. I have first hand seen it

    People could not believe Hitler was bad and let it continue just a bit too long. Until no return back.

    And I am not Islamophobe. I believe in karma. Jews belittle Christian faith and karma came back strong.

    Christians belittle Muslims and karma will come back strong.

    Usa was not so nice in Middle East (Trump said oil in ME is ours). They got their share of karma

    People just don't get the lesson
    Be nice to each other. Don't belittle each other's (non) faith. And when you do, don't start crying when others kill you.

    History is quite self explanatory IMO
     
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  14. Bob Jones

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    It is a fact. SO I assume you endorse hate speech?
     
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    Assume what you like, mate. I could not care less what you think.
     
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  16. Bob Jones

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    Same with me!
     
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    Or gay-activist bigotry.
     
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    But but but...
    There are many, many times more white christian anti gay bigots then gay activists

    And consider, without the white christian anti gay bigots there would ve nothing to take action over
     
  19. ChristineM

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    Where does he say anything for you to make such a hateful assumption?
     
  20. Bob Jones

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    Please refresh my memory. Did I say something to you? So sorry!
     
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