Don Penguinoini
Modi.
But im closer to the new generation. WOW. Its a fact.
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Should Spanking Your Children Be Illegal?
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McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
so.
What does that have to do with the price of beans in China?
Or is this your way of ignoring my last post?
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Well, yes. Whatever makes you happy :sarcastic:
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
You have a point, but I think you are extrapolating too far. Just because correlation does not automatically imply causation, does not mean that it *doesn't* lead to the implication. That is, establishing the correlation removes evidence that spankings and antisocial behavior are not connected.
Besides, if it is just a correlation and nothing more, more thorough studies would need to implement statistical blocking to determine whether another factor is causing the antisocial behavior. Such behavior *is* occurring, and the spankings *are* being administered to the children that are more likely to become antisocial; it is simply a matter of whether such an outside factor exists.
In short, neither stance is proven by the study, but the scales clearly lean in favor of the anti-spanking position.
I need not say any more.
OMFG.
If that shirt is supposed to be a joke, it BADLY misfired.And let's just say it had damn well better be nothing more than a lame joke, because I won't mince words with the fool who wears it with pride.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Not necessarily. Lots of things can be correlated to each other, it does not mean that they are directly related. It may be common response.
Here is the famous example of this.
The number of televisions owned by Russian families has a strong positive correlation to life expectancy.
Better buy alot of TVs right?...
Or just sheer randomness.
The ranking of UC Berkeley has a strong positive association to the number of people killed in gunfights.
That is one way, but there are too many variables to account for. Thats why experiments are vastly preferred.
Outside factors always exist in a social study. Even in experiments. Thats why I think making a claim for one side or the other is flawed.
So you agree with me then.
I just keep neutral until one side has better evidence of their position.
I'm not much older than you penguino and had the opposite reaction to spankings that you did. It is because I got spanked as a child that I myself am OPPOSED to it. So no you don't know how others will react and the fact that you think it benefited you doesn't mean that it benefitted everyone nor does it mean that there aren't/weren't better ways to discipline you that didn't involve spanking.
yossarian22
Resident Schizophrenic
Anecdotal evidence shows nothing.
I am really tired of saying this. There should be a sticky in every debate forum with big bold letters screaming this.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
OMFG.
And let's just say it had damn well better be nothing more than a lame joke, because I won't mince words with the fool who wears it with pride.
calm down buddy, it's from The Best Page In The Universe.. It's a completely satirical website
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
Even if so, I think that's a joke gone too far. Some people, at least in this part of the country, might wear a shirt like that with pride.
Very interesting. You would choose not to use the hosts of other methods available for curtailing bad children's behavior?
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
MNS said:
What is even more interesting is the idea that a parent who exercises the option to spank would never consider nor use any other form of punishment.
Ciscokid
Well-Known Member
I'm not real big on "time outs". I'm not into beating a child...but I have no problem with spanking. I just don't think it should be outlawed.
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
Time-out, IMO, is best suited for routine infractions: name-calling, lying about a small matter (such as not cleaning one's room), etc. When that doesn't work, a host of other options exist besides spankings.
And I'm STILL waiting to get an answer to my comments about pedophilia....
Neo-Logic
Reality Checker
I haven't read the 200 or so replies, so forgive me if I interject on already spoken words.
Raising a child should be to each his own. So long as spanking doesn't evolve into abusive parental behaviors, then the parent is justified in doing so.
I hate to have to resort to sterotypes, but it is believed by many that Asian children often (not always) have good manners and are behaved. Perhaps this is due to the conservative nature of the backgrounds, or maybe perhaps it's because a large percentage of Asian parents raise their kids by spanking as one of the means of punishment.
If we as a society take away a parent's right to individually raise their child, spanking or no spanking, then we're invading some of the most basic rights of free citizens.
Raising a child should be to each his own. So long as spanking doesn't evolve into abusive parental behaviors, then the parent is justified in doing so.
I hate to have to resort to sterotypes, but it is believed by many that Asian children often (not always) have good manners and are behaved. Perhaps this is due to the conservative nature of the backgrounds, or maybe perhaps it's because a large percentage of Asian parents raise their kids by spanking as one of the means of punishment.
If we as a society take away a parent's right to individually raise their child, spanking or no spanking, then we're invading some of the most basic rights of free citizens.