Should fighting sports be legal? Are they moral?

[metis]

I was watching a fight last night and a hockey game broke out!

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

“If someone slaps you, turn the other cheek,”

This is the same guy who trashed the temple and assaulted people with a whip.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I think they’re not moral under any circumstances.

Sex and violence rely both on consent. Sports are a method of reducing violence in war. Instead of fighting for real to the death, just get the tension out of their system.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I made several points about why its true.

Some things are wrong. And some things are correct. That does not change.

While I agree, we are probably going to disagree with which is which.

 

[PearlSeeker]

A Biblical fight:

 

[Subduction Zone]

A Biblical fight:

If I remember correctly and one understands biblical euphemisms God only won because he cheated.

 

[soulsurvivor]

I think they’re not moral under any circumstances. Boxers and martial artists unfortunately think that with rules and golden glitter, fights are justified and these fights happen for little reason other than money. It is a cruel and unusual thing with or without consent to hypocritically allow violence of any kind in our society. Violence is for the animals. We are people. Not just as sons of God, but by nature we are supposed to be above the animals, not copying them or doing worse things than those unreasonable creatures.

Wrestling and sumo where there is no punching are fine. They are a sport of strength and strategy. Boxing and martial arts which involve hitting your opponent are uncivilized and could cause permanent damage to players should be discouraged if not totally banned. But I think they are still moral since consenting adults are participating.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

He never explicitly said, “Slavery is ok,” this was for the Israelites with the pagan people as punishment on those wicked people. The Old Covenant.

Was it okay when it happened to them?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

There was an island, with a big white rock, named the Rock of Virtue. In my beliefs this is Jesus Christ, and His Word. It had a large set of rules that the people that lived on the island lived by

A rock means jack squat. You can write anything you want on it.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

@9-10ths_Penguin And also, if you think my religion is immoral, it’s been terribly misrepresented. And I’m not trying to force you to do my beliefs. Guiding and forcing aren’t the same.

You think there are justifications for slavery. You assume the authorities are moral. That’s a recipe for disaster.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Violence of any kind is inherently wrong. And don’t you dare try to make gray area with imaginary scenarios.

Slavery is violence and you are cool with it.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Its nowhere near to what you're talking about; but generally you can't make any points unless you're talking to people who are genuinely interested staying on the topic.

The Bible clearly says that violence is okay most of the time. It doesn’t say to use sports to reduce violence, even though it is the safer option.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The Bible clearly says that violence is okay most of the time. It doesn’t say to use sports to reduce violence, even though it is the safer option.

The Bible is a library and doesn't say one thing about a topic like violence. Each author has their own chance to write their own perspective.

It is common for men, however, to presume that violence is necessary. For example Carl Marx writes "...there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror..." Which I get from the link in this spoiler:

Spoiler: Marx and the necessity of violence

Marx’s philosophy and the *necessity* of violent politics – Stephen Hicks, Ph.D.

www.stephenhicks.org

Men have historically associated our own masculinity and power with righteousness, because its how we think. Almost anything can seduce us: money etc. but revenge is the most righteous of feelings. Much of the bible subverts this, and it is subversive writing which puts upon us a feminine mantle. In scripture revenge is the worst of all things. The Jew even cuts himself, and while its not explicitly explained the implication to an ancient fellow must have been obvious. The phallus, the spear, the sword, the weapon, the great decider of righteousness, was not to be the great decider. All over the ancient world "Might is right" was considered very true and universally accepted I think. It was simply nature's way and therefore the way established for us whether by the gods or whatever. Even now it corrupts our thinking and threatens to stage a comeback every generation.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

A rock means jack squat. You can write anything you want on it.

But did we smell what The Rock was cookin?