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serve the Creator ?
- Thread starter DPMartin
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Some honestly believe they do. I'm not sure what mechanism they use to judge that.
stvdv
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I think if people think they serve the Creator I think they miss out on something important
I can not even control my own heartbeat, my breathing goes without me thinking about it
Fortunately I need not put the right juices into my stomach to have it well digested
Seems to me there is someone "serving us" 24/07
JoshuaTree
Flowers are red?
God is in control, we are all part of God's perfect plan, we all serve God's purpose, we all are God's servants... whether we realize it or not.
well if its genuine it would require a two way relationship. one knows if they walk with God, and the truth is, so do others that know that person whether they admit it or not..
what, in your circumstances you find something pleasing? and you see that it is serving you?
if you were freezing and wet the breeze wouldn't be pleasing or serving you. are you saying that your judgement of what is good and evil should be served?
What use would an all-powerful god have for servants?
I presume that they trust that God can give them feedback if they need correction. God's silence corroborates their assumption that they're doing God's will.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
No I did not imply that.
First: "I do not have a picture of the Creator"
Second: "I do not see the Creator as a Judge"
Third: "I do think that man in general does a lot of thinking, whether they think they do or not"
I do acknowledge that humans (not just men) serve the gods regardless of whether or not it is desired or intended. In a polytheistic context, though, the gods are neither "Creator" nor "Judge," but the various aspects of our world or governors thereof. As such, the mechanism @lewisnotmiller mentions in his earlier post looks rather different. The gods aren't some distant "out there" phenomena, they are the phenomena. It's less a mechanism than "if you are a career teacher, you are inevitably of service to (or a conduit and embodiment of) gods/spirits of learning, education, and knowledge." In polytheism, the focus of practice tends to be about acknowledging this and cultivating a more meaningful relationship with the forces that are part of our lives.
Doesn't seem that way to me at all.
From fatal viruses and horrible parasites, to hurricanes and tsunamis, to the rather ignorant and instinct driven humans that keep getting born, the human situation is attempting to escape the disaster that The Creator is responsible for (if there is any responsibility, I don't think there is.)
It seems pretty obvious to me that The Creator doesn't care about anything at all. Certainly not humans, any more than stars and galaxies and viruses and molecules.
Tom
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
That is one way of looking at things.
I always take responsibility for my own actions.
So I only see a world full of people who make a mess of it
And then they blame "some Creator" for it. That is the easy way pointing fingers at others IMO
I don't do that. If people make a mistake, that is their mistake. No need to blame "an unproven God" for that
But I am fully aware that most people are wired that way (pointing at others)
And so I understand that take every opportunity to point, even point at God
At least no one can prove them wrong, because God is not proven to exist
I don't think so.
Perhaps. There can also be an echo chamber of like-minded people, I guess.
surly a maker of a thing is the judge of when it is finished, complete, perfect, or better said in this case sees that it is good in his own judgement.
man is locked into his own heart, of which he can't escape of his own power. thinking is an option, in the pursuit for opportunities for the fulfillment of what is in his heart.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
If there is some creator who wants me to serve it, then this creator has some serious 'splaining to do.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
You can only be the judge if you judge. This whole judgmental thing is "human thinking" IMO. Hence Bible/Scriptural advice "Judge not"
A good Teacher always teaches by example. If God asks us "do not judge", then I hold God to it. So God does not judge
And that is exactly what I learned from Buddhism, Hinduism, Advaita "Be a witness", meaning "judge not"
So I am totally senang with my "non judgmental" + "unconditional Love" God picture
And I am also totally senang if all others in the world disagree
I won't even debate them on that