mahmoud mrt
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I would like to post a thread about this very important topic. I hope Muslims and non-Muslims here find it informative and beneficial.
First I want to make clear that I fully respect every person’s choice to follow the ideology he’s comfortable with whether this ideology is atheism, theism or and any religious ideology.
I put this thread in Islam DIR to humbly clarify the Islamic Qur’anic perspective I understood through lots of reading and learning throughout my life.
Now we need to state a very important statement which is:
The holy Qur’an is a book of Signs, philosophy, & Guidance; it’s Not a book of science.
Which means that the Goal of the holy Qur’an is to lead the person who reads it to the Path to heaven, encouraging him to believe in God and be grateful to him, thus being more pious increasing his good deeds and repenting from bad deeds, thus leading him to deserve heaven in the hereafter.
So in order to reach this Goal the holy Qur’an states many Signs encouraging the person to think and consider the greatness of the universe, & thus by simple philosophical statements convinces the person that this universe is not created in vain, and that it was created and is still maintained by God who created it to affirm the truth and test every person so as to deserve the grade and degree he deserves in the hereafter.
So the point of the endless debate whether we were created by random non-guided mindless evolution, also whether the universe was created by mindless reaction of the forces of gravity and atomic energy non-guided, This approach is actually not scientific, it’s an atheist philosophical approach.
And the holy Qur’an simply refutes it by stating very strong Simple Philosophical statements. It leaves to God all options of creation including:
- Guided Evolution & Guided reaction of forces, it simply states that God creates everything through a long process, whether this process includes creature to creature evolution, or a long process of creating a creature separately Not derived from another creature. This Concept of long process creation is clear in the holy Qur’an for all the universe and living creatures.
Simply because if you think about it the atheist approach suggests that stupid mindless reaction can return into a very complicated precise and very tuned universe and creatures, it suggests the human’s very complicated and intelligent body & mind was formed by stupid mindless random chances.
The atheist philosophy simply suggests that stupidity can result into complicated intelligence.
And to affirm this atheist philosophy it suggests 2 mere philosophical ideas, that:
- There are endless infinite numbers of parallel universes, and by mere chance our universe was the lucky one being perfectly tuned and able to host life.
In fact there can be No single scientific proof of this idea, it’s simply a Philosophical idea.
- The long process of the universe creation and living creature creation is Not Guided by any intelligent force; it’s a mere random stupid chance.
Again scientific researchers have not agreed on this fact, in fact there are evidences against the idea that the process is simple stupid random reaction. This includes that the Darwin’s idea that the process is steady and totally random was not accurate and not agreed upon. Also that in the history of creatures there were times when numerous very big numbers of different creatures species’ fossils appearing in times where there could not have been a steady random evolution to create these creatures.
The point is that this atheist idea again is actually a philosophical idea, nothing more. And to say that it’s agreed upon scientific fact is completely inaccurate.
The holy Qur’an refutes this idea by a more simple Philosophical approach that:
- There is only One God who created this universe by long creation processes.
When God speaks of creation in the holy Qur’an He uses the phrase “Kon Fa Yakoon” which is a continues tense word meaning: “Be and it continuously becomes”.
He also described the creation of the universe as 6 long phases, and the creation of Adam as a long phased process.
- God’s way of creation is a long process of Guided & maintained reactions where God Guides the creation process from inside.
There is a name of God which is: “Albaten” which means: “The Inner, the insider, whose reflection is inside His creatures”.
That’s why God describes himself in the holy Qur’an as the Reflected light of the universe “Noor Alsamawat wa Alard”, which simply means that the universe is the reflection of His light, because He is the true Existence.
This relates to a thread I posted before; I recommend reading it also:
The Free Will Question., And How Islamic Philosophy views this issue
Now you have both Philosophical approaches simplified, and it’s your responsibility to reach into your soul and choose the philosophy that convinces you and is best for you.
May God Guide us all to the right path.
Happy “Adha” Eid to you all.
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First I want to make clear that I fully respect every person’s choice to follow the ideology he’s comfortable with whether this ideology is atheism, theism or and any religious ideology.
I put this thread in Islam DIR to humbly clarify the Islamic Qur’anic perspective I understood through lots of reading and learning throughout my life.
Now we need to state a very important statement which is:
The holy Qur’an is a book of Signs, philosophy, & Guidance; it’s Not a book of science.
Which means that the Goal of the holy Qur’an is to lead the person who reads it to the Path to heaven, encouraging him to believe in God and be grateful to him, thus being more pious increasing his good deeds and repenting from bad deeds, thus leading him to deserve heaven in the hereafter.
So in order to reach this Goal the holy Qur’an states many Signs encouraging the person to think and consider the greatness of the universe, & thus by simple philosophical statements convinces the person that this universe is not created in vain, and that it was created and is still maintained by God who created it to affirm the truth and test every person so as to deserve the grade and degree he deserves in the hereafter.
So the point of the endless debate whether we were created by random non-guided mindless evolution, also whether the universe was created by mindless reaction of the forces of gravity and atomic energy non-guided, This approach is actually not scientific, it’s an atheist philosophical approach.
And the holy Qur’an simply refutes it by stating very strong Simple Philosophical statements. It leaves to God all options of creation including:
- Guided Evolution & Guided reaction of forces, it simply states that God creates everything through a long process, whether this process includes creature to creature evolution, or a long process of creating a creature separately Not derived from another creature. This Concept of long process creation is clear in the holy Qur’an for all the universe and living creatures.
Simply because if you think about it the atheist approach suggests that stupid mindless reaction can return into a very complicated precise and very tuned universe and creatures, it suggests the human’s very complicated and intelligent body & mind was formed by stupid mindless random chances.
The atheist philosophy simply suggests that stupidity can result into complicated intelligence.
And to affirm this atheist philosophy it suggests 2 mere philosophical ideas, that:
- There are endless infinite numbers of parallel universes, and by mere chance our universe was the lucky one being perfectly tuned and able to host life.
In fact there can be No single scientific proof of this idea, it’s simply a Philosophical idea.
- The long process of the universe creation and living creature creation is Not Guided by any intelligent force; it’s a mere random stupid chance.
Again scientific researchers have not agreed on this fact, in fact there are evidences against the idea that the process is simple stupid random reaction. This includes that the Darwin’s idea that the process is steady and totally random was not accurate and not agreed upon. Also that in the history of creatures there were times when numerous very big numbers of different creatures species’ fossils appearing in times where there could not have been a steady random evolution to create these creatures.
The point is that this atheist idea again is actually a philosophical idea, nothing more. And to say that it’s agreed upon scientific fact is completely inaccurate.
The holy Qur’an refutes this idea by a more simple Philosophical approach that:
- There is only One God who created this universe by long creation processes.
When God speaks of creation in the holy Qur’an He uses the phrase “Kon Fa Yakoon” which is a continues tense word meaning: “Be and it continuously becomes”.
He also described the creation of the universe as 6 long phases, and the creation of Adam as a long phased process.
- God’s way of creation is a long process of Guided & maintained reactions where God Guides the creation process from inside.
There is a name of God which is: “Albaten” which means: “The Inner, the insider, whose reflection is inside His creatures”.
That’s why God describes himself in the holy Qur’an as the Reflected light of the universe “Noor Alsamawat wa Alard”, which simply means that the universe is the reflection of His light, because He is the true Existence.
This relates to a thread I posted before; I recommend reading it also:
The Free Will Question., And How Islamic Philosophy views this issue
Now you have both Philosophical approaches simplified, and it’s your responsibility to reach into your soul and choose the philosophy that convinces you and is best for you.
May God Guide us all to the right path.
Happy “Adha” Eid to you all.
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