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Question. If god created "every thing", were did evil come from and who created it? Don't say Satan because God also created Satan.
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Science is a false God
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Subduction Zone
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Defensive verses are not very impressive for those that do not drink the Kool-Aid.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
God did not create Satan the Devil anymore than a parent creates a murderer a thief or a drug addict.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Seriously? Have you not read your Bible? You appear to be willing to excuse your version of God for his incompetence and evil.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
No, absolutely not. Had Adam and Eve remained loyal to God and obeyed him our planet would be a Paradise free from all of the war, violence, abuse, strife, discord, animosity, hatred, bigotry, inequality, injustice, abject squalor, preventable disease, oppression and depravity that characterizes human existence today.
Thankfully, humanity's experiment of independence from God is quickly coming to an end and our Creator will restore the world and the planet to its original paradisaical conditions so that all those loyal to him can live forever in true peace and happiness.
We Never Know
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Really? Where did Satan come from?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
But Adam and Eve were a myth. This is one of the failures of the Bible.
And the false belief that "God will make everything okay" is a harmful idea. People with this sort of belief tend to resist changes that preserve our environment.
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But then again your God created Adam and Eve, knowing they would stray, created the snake and donkey(the evil) that he knew would lead them astray, let them stray, then created death as punishment, created more humans to be evil and die, it's like a big game.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Are you asking because you actually want to learn or do you simply want to keep your echo-chamber going?
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
But he didn't know. That's why he could legitimately hold them responsible for their treachery.
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Your God created everything including Satan. Accept that.
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Oh! He didn't know? So he's not a all knowing God. Thanks for pointing that out and admitting to it
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
So God is not omniscient. And you do not realize how your concept of God screwed up. He did not give them the knowledge of right and wrong in the myth. That puts the blame for their actions on him. I sincerely hope that you do not have any children. By the standards you show here you would punish them for things that they had no way of knowing were wrong.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Oh! He didn't know? So he's not a all knowing God. Thanks for pointing that out and admitting to it
My prediction, since he seems to have me on ignore, is that he will simply come up with some lame and illogical excuses for his version of God.
Maximilian
Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.
Echo chamber it is . . .
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Your denial it is.
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Of course. Anyone that believes in God has their own version of God yet they all believe in the same God. Ironic isn't it?
Skreeper
Member
Nope, I have no need for your imaginary creator.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
You have not prayed hard enough.
It would certainly provide evidence of the existence of something more than usual at work. It is the type of evidence I would need to start thinking theism is wrong. If that is what you mean by 'undermine', then yes.