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"San Francisco government condemns Catholic Church"

Smoke

Done here.
In the Catholic DIR, Victor wrote:

Tolerance from the tolerant again! It's not enough to call us bigots and the myriad of names that are used in this very forum; but they must infiltrate the walls of the Church and tell us what we can believe.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202473892139&rss=newswire

Aren't we the ones often called hypocrites?

I guess seperation of Church and state is in full force unless they disagree with you.

In fact, what the Board of Supervisors did was to urge Cardinal Levada to "withdraw his discriminatory and defamatory directive that Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of San Francisco stop placing children in need of adoption with homosexual households."

This is the text of the resolution:

Resolution No. 168-06

Resolution urging Cardinal William Levada, in his capacity as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith at the Vatican, to withdraw his discriminatory and defamatory directive that Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of San Francisco stop placing children in need of adoption with homosexual households.

WHEREAS, It is an insult to all San Franciscans when a foreign country, like the Vatican, meddles with and attempts to negatively influence this great City’s existing and established customs and traditions such as the right of same-sex couples to adopt and care for children in need; and

WHEREAS, The statement of Cardinal Levada and the Vatican that “Catholic agencies should not place children for adoption in homosexual households,” and “Allowing children to be adopted by persons living in such unions would actually mean doing violence to these children” are absolutely unacceptable to the citizenry of San Francisco; and

WHEREAS, Such hateful and discriminatory rhetoric is both insulting and callous, and shows a level of insensitivity and ignorance which has seldom been encountered by this Board of Supervisors; and

WHEREAS, Same-sex couples are just as qualified to be parents as are heterosexual couples; and

WHEREAS, Cardinal Levada is a decidedly unqualified representative of his former home city, and of the people of San Francisco and the values they hold dear; and

WHEREAS, The Board of Supervisors urges Archbishop Niederauer and the Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of San Francisco to defy all discriminatory directives of Cardinal Levada; now, therefore, be it

RESOLVED, That the Board of Supervisors urges Cardinal William Levada, in his capacity as head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of Faith [sic] at the Vatican (formerly known as Holy Office of the Inquisition), to withdraw his discriminatory and defamatory directive that Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of San Francisco stop placing children in need of adoption with homosexual households.​

The Catholic League and two Catholic citizens of San Francisco sued the Board of Supervisors, alleging that they had violated the establishment clause. The court found that

the supervisors had acted for a legal secular purpose - to protect gay and lesbian couples from discrimination - and not to express the city's disapproval of Catholicism.​

If anything, the Catholic Church gets away with too much. Every Catholic bishop in the United States should be required to register as an agent of a foreign government. Every other agent of a foreign government is required to do so.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Now THAT could have some implications lol!
Pope Urban VIII doesn't seem to have been too sure about God himself: "If there is a God, Cardinal Richelieu will have much to answer for; if not, he has done very well."
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Pope Urban VIII doesn't seem to have been too sure about God himself: "If there is a God, Cardinal Richelieu will have much to answer for; if not, he has done very well."

The man who led the Inquisition?

Interesting.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Victor seems to think so.

Just to be fair to Catholic Charities my wife negotiated a labor contract with them for SEIU some time ago. She got the feeling that they were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

They were being forced to give gay couples medical insurance by the City of SF. The church would not let them. So they drew up language that anybody could pick one person other then your children to go on the insurence. She said she really got the feeling that they were being forced by the church to do what they did not want to do. They were more then willing to spend money to get out of this bind.
 
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