Sacrifice

[Thief]

it seems this thread has been sacrificed to digression

 

[Jim]

it seems this thread has been sacrificed to digression

What @David T and I have been discussing, in my way of thinking, has been the need for more people to be willing, generously volunteering to sacrifice more, for responsible management of the earth’s resources. That’s what makes it a spiritual issue. Seeing it as a spiritual issue is the only way that people can be inspired to willingly sacrifice as much as they need to, to stop the ravaging. It’s an example of the sacrifices that we do on our own behalf, in our love for God, which Jesus made possible for us with His sacrifice.

 

[David T]

What @David T and I have been discussing, in my way of thinking, has been the need for more people to be willing, generously volunteering to sacrifice more, for responsible management of the earth’s resources. That’s what makes it a spiritual issue. Seeing it as a spiritual issue is the only way that people can be inspired to willingly sacrifice as much as they need to, to stop the ravaging. It’s an example of the sacrifices that we do on our own behalf, in our love for God, which Jesus made possible for us with His sacrifice.

Amen. Getting an amen from Me is very difficult.

 

[Jim]

@Thief Now I would check all three answers
- Jesus made a sacrifice that was needed, for all people to have the possibilities that we have now.
- We all have our own sacrifices to make, for those possibilities to be realized.
- No amount of sacrifice is enough to buy salvation. It isn’t for sale. It’s a free gift for anyone who wants it.

 

[Jim]

Amen. Getting an amen from Me is very difficult.

I might want to make you one of my forum gods, if I didn’t already have three of them.

 

[David T]

I might want to make you one of my forum gods, if I didn’t already have three of them.

Ha...!!

 

[Thief]

@Thief Now I would check all three answers
- Jesus made a sacrifice that was needed, for all people to have the possibilities that we have now.
- We all have our own sacrifices to make, for those possibilities to be realized.
- No amount of sacrifice is enough to buy salvation. It isn’t for sale. It’s a free gift for anyone who wants it.

not buying it

Jesus didn't die with our sins upon Him
that would be scapegoating

not buying it

we all have sacrifices to make......true
but what are you willing to leave behind?

and salvation cannot be bought

if you enter into heaven....it's because you belong there

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The Jewish prophets' job is to interpret the Torah. Part of that interpretation is to know when to temporarily suspend an obligation, i.e. when it becomes impossible.

During the time when the Temple was destroyed, Hosea said, "The words of our lips [prayers] shall be as bullocks [sacrifices]" Hosea 14:2

The Psalmist said, "Burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require." Psalm 40:6

What does God actually want, if not atonement sacrifices?
Repentence. You fall, you stand up again. You return to his ways.
"My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit;
a broken and contrite heart
you, God, will not despise."
Psalm 51:17