Repetition

[Thief]

I can't recall the precise moment when I noticed this....

Do NOT pray in repetition as do the heathens
believing their prayers are heard for so many words

I agree

 

[Terry Sampson]

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 English Standard Version (ESV)
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

 

[sun rise]

I can't recall the precise moment when I noticed this....

Do NOT pray in repetition as do the heathens
believing their prayers are heard for so many words

I agree

From the Sermon on the Mount distinguishing "prayer" which is designed to impress people and prayer which is directed to God.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

 

[Altfish]

 

[stvdv]

I can't recall the precise moment when I noticed this....

Do NOT pray in repetition as do the heathens
believing their prayers are heard for so many words

I agree

IMO:
If a prayer is sincere and from the heart, 1 prayer is enough
If not then more are needed till the 1 sincere prayer is done

Exceptions are possible probably

 

[icehorse]

You should be aware that repetition is often a tool of the propagandist.

 

[metis]

I can't recall the precise moment when I noticed this....

Do NOT pray in repetition as do the heathens
believing their prayers are heard for so many words

I agree

IOW, the power is not in the words, thus the words are not an end in and of themselves.

 

[Thief]

I don't have beads for my hand

and no recital of prayer well known

 

[stvdv]

Do NOT pray in repetition as do the heathens
believing their prayers are heard for so many words

I agree

The idea of repeating a mantra (or God's Name) is to slow down the mind
Once the mind is silenced, repeating the mantra would speed up the mind

 

[Thief]

The idea of repeating a mantra (or God's Name) is to slow down the mind
Once the mind is silenced, repeating the mantra would speed up the mind

ok....I can see that

still....I don't think God and heaven listen to the droning sound
that endless whining sound

at this late date
the Lord's Prayer is beyond counting of recital

 

[Thief]

IOW, the power is not in the words, thus the words are not an end in and of themselves.

ok

but if the words DO have power

once is enough

 

[Thief]

not sure how I put this in Journals

this was intended for debate

OOOOOPS!

 

[metis]

ok

but if the words DO have power

... then I would be VERY surprised.

 

[Thief]

... then I would be VERY surprised.

and there events in my life

first the surprise

then the relief

followed by the nagging doubt......
my need was answered by heaven?

why?.....would heaven bother over the likes of me?

so.....I am careful about what I say toward God and heaven
and also here....as I speak to my fellowman

words can have power

 

[stvdv]

still....I don't think God and heaven listen to the droning sound
that endless whining sound

I did not say it is a droning sound, that is your interpretation
I did not say mantras are whining, nor is repeating God's Name

 

[stvdv]

I don't think God and heaven listen

Okay, you mean to say, that you never had a conversation with the Divine

I know that the Universe listens and responds to prayers

 

[Thief]

Okay, you mean to say, that you never had a conversation with the Divine

I know that the Universe listens and responds to prayers

a fair saying....

I have not heard the Voice
as did Moses

and when I post.....it really is my handiwork that I post

still....there is an influence that maybe you can pick up on

I can't claim to be a prophet
God's Voice is not in my head

but I am a scribe