Ignatius A
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Show me evidence that Palestinian "civilians" are opposed to Hamas.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You think people deserve to be called terrorists because of what they think rather than what they do? Even if every single Palestinian supported Hamas (which they don't), there is still a difference between terrorists and civilians.
Also, there's the fact that a significant portion of the population of Gaza are under 15 years old. And their "support" or "lack of support" for Hamas doesn't tend to make headlines. You're welcome to fly over there and ask a few, if you can find some.
Are you striving to be incoherent or are you simply confused? You're "Hamas is 'Palestinians' and 'Palestinians' are Hamas" conflation is dangerous and bigoted nonsense irrespective of Hamas views.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Polls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics
Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.
Ignatius A
Active Member
Then show me evidence Palestinian civilians condemn Hamas. You're opinion is appreciated but irrelevant. Palestinian "civilians" are killed because Hamas uses them as shields.
Ignatius A
Active Member
Look at you growing upPolls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics
Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.www.washingtoninstitute.org
Has Hamas stopped calling for the destruction of Israel?
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You just believe it's fine to kill civilians, then.
I guess Hamas did nothing wrong.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Show some maturity yourself.
Ignatius A
Active Member
Not when dealing with children
You misunderstand.
Ignatius A
Active Member
Plays to emotions are the sign of non thinking
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You're right. How childish of me to believe that it's wrong to equate civilians and terrorists.
Silly, childish, war-crime hating me. I should be smart and adult like you, and essentially justify murdering civilians.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
No, terrible arguments are.
Got a good one as to why you think it's cool to equate civilians and terrorists?
Ignatius A
Active Member
What military target did Hamas attack in oct 7?
Ignatius A
Active Member
You're a big boy now right? How do you propose israel should defend itself while not killing civilians when Hamas uses civilians as shields? Be specific.
I believe you misunderstood the situation in 2016. That is why you voted they way you did.
Back at ya, bub.
I'm not so impressed with your ethics or reasoning either.
Let's avoid the specifics.
Ignatius A
Active Member
This is from your posted evidence
"Nevertheless, there is widespread popular appeal for competing armed Palestinian factions, including those involved in the attack. Overall, 57% of Gazans express at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas—along with similar percentages of Palestinians in the West Bank (52%) and East Jerusalem (64%)—though Gazans who express this opinion of Hamas are fewer than the number of Gazans who have a positive view of Fatah (64%)."
More than half of Gazans have at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas. You might also want to check out the methodology section of your evidence post. Pay attention to who the people are that were asked to participate in the survey. Lots were from "Arab countries". You can't just Google you have to read.
tytlyf
Not Religious
The lesser of 2 evils in 2016 was Hillary. That's why it was responsible to vote for her to prevent a Trump presidency.
Unfortunately, many Bernie supporters believed the Russian propaganda about how Hillary rigged the nomination process.
And those voters didn't vote to prevent a Trump presidency. The same thing is happening now with the Israel/Gaza conflict.
The same people protesting Biden, like Hillary, are falling into the same propaganda trap and indirectly helping Trump win.
There was disagreement about which of
these 2 evils was worse. The point is that
then liberals fumed that voting for the
lesser evil was to "support" evil.
But now to support Genocide Joe is not to
support all the terrible things he stands for.
Double standard.