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Remembering Space Shuttle Challenger

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
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Wirey

Fartist
Could be worse. Could have died in some car accident and no one would give a crap.

People die at work every day. This one just happened to be on camera.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Could be worse. Could have died in some car accident and no one would give a crap.

People die at work every day. This one just happened to be on camera.
No! No! No!
Ordinary vehicles don't generate 37,000,000 horsepower!
 

RRex

Active Member
Premium Member
I know it's easy to make fun of what happened, but with every mishap our space legacy died a little bit. That is a sad thing since it was part of the Cold War and as such played a huge role in defining us as a nation.

We are on the upswing again, but it has been and is a long, hard road.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know it's easy to make fun of what happened, but with every mishap our space legacy died a little bit. That is a sad thing since it was part of the Cold War and as such played a part in defining us as a nation.

We are on the upswing again, but it has been and is a long, hard road.
Yes, the space program is a big thing here.
But I think the shift from manned exploits to remote sensing & unmanned craft is a real improvement.
Some love the exciting drama of sending people into space, but I care more about the information &
understanding gleaned. People are fragile. Our new approach, "faster better cheaper", is best.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Yes, the space program is a big thing here.
But I think the shift from manned exploits to remote sensing & unmanned craft is a real improvement.
Some love the exciting drama of sending people into space, but I care more about the information &
understanding gleaned. People are fragile. Our new approach, "faster better cheaper", is best.
Humans are more efficient. Once we are confident and develop more efficient rocket technology, we will start taking a peek for ourselves.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Humans are more efficient. Once we are confident and develop more efficient rocket technology, we will start taking a peek for ourselves.
Nah....humans require all that life support stuff, & a higher safety factor for missions.
And they always want a return trip. (Robotic probes are OK with 1 way missions.)
I admit they've had a great role....moon exploration, Hubble telescope repair.
But they become less useful as the distances increase.....Mars is much more difficult than the Moon.
Think of what we get from unmanned missions.....
- Flying probes to Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, & beyond....places we cannot send humans.
- Chandra X-ray observatory
- Kepler, Pioneer, Voyager, etc, etc.
And remote sensing....detecting gravity waves looms as the next big 'telescope' method of exploring the universe.
These unmanned efforts have yielded far more.

Now when they get warp drive & shields, we'll talk about sending people farther out there.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Nah....humans require all that life support stuff, & a higher safety factor for missions.
I admit they've had a great role....moon exploration, Hubble telescope repair.
But they become less useful as the distances increase.....Mars is much more difficult than the Moon.
Think of what we get from unmanned missions.....
- Flying probes to Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, & beyond....places we cannot send humans.
- Chandra X-ray observatory
- Kepler, Pioneer, Voyager, etc, etc.
And remote sensing....detecting gravity waves looms as the next big 'telescope' method of exploring the universe.
These unmanned efforts have yielded far more.

Now when they get warp drive & shields, we'll talk about sending people farther out there.
Sure, I will give you that. We have quite a ways to go before you and I can book a seat to Mars. It will just take some time. Meanwhile, we can send probes and rovers to our hearts content, for less!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sure, I will give you that. We have quite a ways to go before you and I can book a seat to Mars. It will just take some time. Meanwhile, we can send probes and rovers to our hearts content, for less!
Woo hoo....detente!
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Seems to me we achieved this milestone a couple of weeks ago. I know I read about it somewhere.
I'll try to find the article.
The real value will be in boosting sensitivity by at least a factor of 10.
Perhaps then we can look at black hole antics more easily.
 
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