That people will believe anything.
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King Phenomenon
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Personally I don’t even think the time Jesus lived existed but it does inspire ideas.
Wrong. Jesus did die on the cross. That he did not die on the cross is just a myth.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
"there were several witnesses "
Not even one worth the name, but if one insists, then kindly name one of them, repeat one of them, and we will look into his witnessing, please, right?
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1 Corinthians 15:3-8 "and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me."
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The verses of " 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 " are not from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, please, right?:
Holy Bible King James Version (Red Letter Edition)
The Roman Catholic Holy Bible with the words of Jesus in red.
World Messianic Bible
Why leave Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah and take guidance from Hellenist Paul who faked/forged a vision and self styled himself as an Apostle, please, right? Wasn't Paul a hoax, please, as he never was in the company of Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah, please, right??
Does one find faults with Yeshua and does not consider him worthy to quote from him for guidance , please? Right?
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Note: "Jesus did not die a cursed death on the Cross", one gets to know from many clues in the Gospels itself, please. Right?
It means thousands of people base legislation and votes on a piece of folklore.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
Eh without religion ideologies would still exist. Might even be worse.
How would these ideologies differ from religions?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, some of them won't. There is a standard psychology to both some religions and some ideologies, that is the same.
You want statements about witnesses of the resurrection to be from Jesus?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it means there is an afterlife and re-incarnation.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you don't have shred of evidence to support that view.
Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
I don't think it was physical, if it happened at all. What is important to me is his teachings while he was alive.
syo
Well-Known Member
Don't make me throw up.
DNB
Christian
That there is hope that those who accept his purpose on the cross, will also be resurrected as he was.
If God was willing to raise Jesus, then there are grounds that He may also be willing to raise us too.
If Jesus wasn't raised, then I would believe that this life on earth is the only one that we have, and that would make both the future and the present feel very grim, indeed.
FredVB
Member
Jesus has risen. No one answers how the tomb his body was lain in was empty days after the crucifixion. If it was not empty the claim that he had risen would have been disproved, many were around wanting to do that. That there were witnesses saying they had seen him risen appearing to them, who were martyred for their witness, makes a claim that those disciples had stolen his body and made their profession about him not believable. Lives were changed, it is far more believable that God raised him, as cowardly disciples were really changed, and just later was it seen many prophecies were fulfilled with Jesus and his death and resurrection.
It's mythology; a story, just like the stories of Narnia or Middle Earth.
Each Gospel gives a different account, and none of them have any supporting evidence.
Many religions revolve around mythology and folklore, Christianity is no exception. There are stories, by believers. Where are the third-party accounts? Where is the evidence? How is Christian mythology any more reliable than Mayan, Norse or Greek mythology?
Many doctrines change lives. Many are part of major religions. This is not evidence.
You claim a specific myth is believable, but offer no supporting evidence. "God raised Him?" Where is the evidence of that? Why is some magical act by an invisible being "far more believable?"