Great. So you agree with what I said in post 58 about the covenant's being eternal.
The word "תורתי" is used approximately 12 times in scripture. Can you show me where it doesn't refer to the body of laws given by God to the people (you know -- what your cut and paste job says it "most specifically means")? I mean, besides your claim here that it refers to something new and not specified.
Well I found it more than 40 times in this form...
תורתי
תּוֹרַ֖ת
tō·w·raṯ (the law)
...and quite a number of times in other forms.
וְהַתּוֹרָה֙
wə·hat·tō·w·rāh (and the law)
בְּתוֹרָתִ֖י
bə·ṯō·w·rā·ṯî (in My law)
הַתּוֹרָ֖ה
hat·tō·w·rāh (law)
וְתוֹרָתְךָ֖
wə·ṯō·w·rā·ṯə·ḵā (and Your law)
בַּתּוֹרָ֡ה
bat·tō·w·rāh (in the Law)
כְּתוֹרַ֖ת
kə·ṯō·w·raṯ (according to the Law)
A number of places applies it not to the entire law, but specific laws.
Leviticus 6:9 Interlinear: Command Aaron and his sons, saying, This is a law of the burnt-offering (it is the burnt-offering, because of the burning on the altar all the night unto the morning, and the fire of the altar is burning on it,) - This [is] the law of the burnt offering
Leviticus 6:14 Interlinear: And this is a law of the present: sons of Aaron have brought it near before Jehovah unto the front of the altar, - this [is] the law of the meat offering
Leviticus 6:25 Interlinear: Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, This is a law of the sin-offering: in the place where the burnt-offering is slaughtered is the sin-offering slaughtered before Jehovah; it is most holy. - This [is] the law of the sin offering
Leviticus 7:1 Interlinear: And this is a law of the guilt-offering: it is most holy; - this [is] the law of the trespass offering
Leviticus 7:7 Interlinear: as is a sin-offering, so is a guilt-offering; one law is for them; the priest who maketh atonement by it -- it is his. - As the sin offering is, so is the trespass offering: there is one law for them: the priest that maketh atonement therewith shall have it.
Leviticus 7:11 Interlinear: And this is a law of the sacrifice of the peace-offerings which one bringeth near to Jehovah: - this [is] the law of the sacrifice of peace offerings
Leviticus 7:37 Interlinear: This is the law for burnt-offering, for present, and for sin-offering, and for guilt-offering, and for consecrations, and for a sacrifice of the peace-offerings, - This [is] the law of the burnt offering, of the meat offering, and of the sin offering, and of the trespass offering, and of the consecrations, and of the sacrifice of the peace offerings
Leviticus 11:46 Interlinear: This is a law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature which is moving in the waters, and of every creature which is teeming on the earth, - This [is] the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth
Leviticus 12:7 Interlinear: and he hath brought it near before Jehovah, and hath made atonement for her, and she hath been cleansed from the fountain of her blood; this is the law of her who is bearing, in regard to a male or to a female. - This [is] the law for her that hath born a male or a female
Leviticus 13:59 Interlinear: This is the law of a plague of leprosy in a garment of wool or of linen, or of the warp or of the woof, or of any vessel of skin, to pronounce it clean or to pronounce it unclean.' - This [is] the law of the plague of leprosy in a garment
Leviticus 14:2 Interlinear: 'This is a law of the leper, in the day of his cleansing, that he hath been brought in unto the priest, - This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing
...including...
Proverbs 1:8 Interlinear: Hear, my son, the instruction of thy father, And leave not the law of thy mother, - My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother
Proverbs 3:1 Interlinear: My son! my law forget not, And my commands let thy heart keep, - My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments
Proverbs 4:2 Interlinear: For good learning I have given to you, My law forsake not. - For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law
Proverbs 6:20 Interlinear: Keep, my son, the command of thy father, And leave not the law of thy mother. - My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother
Proverbs 6:23 Interlinear: For a lamp is the command, And the law a light, And a way of life are reproofs of instruction, - For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life
Proverbs 13:14 Interlinear: The law of the wise is a fountain of life, To turn aside from snares of death. - The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death
Proverbs 31:26 Interlinear: Her mouth she hath opened in wisdom, And the law of kindness is on her tongue. - She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness
We aren't on different pages. You are in a different book. I gave you sources to show my position. You cite a verse that says that some sins can be expiated through a sacrifice which does not invalidate the statement that some are forgiven without a sacrifice. (Num 31:50 describes donations as effecting atonement and I Kings 8:46-50 says prayer effects forgiveness).
You are taking out verses evidently for your convenience.
Numbers 31 is not describing a sin atonement.
The prayer in Kings related to a people in captivity. Of course the could not make atonement under those conditions, just as a Jew could not tell his captor, "Well I can't work today, because today is Sabbath".
God had a basis for exemption on those occasions... as I pointed out scripturally.
In that we are on two different pages, and yes, perhaps two books.
Well, I read about the chatat and the asham and noticed that they only cover certain unintentional sins, misuse of temple property and situations where the individual does not know if he sinned.
Here is some light reading.
If one is not aware of a sin, making atonement for an unknown sin is...
It is when one becomes aware of one's sin, one makes atonement.
You asked for an explanation of "messianic days" and I gave you some reading. The website starts with a discussion of a messianic era, answering your question. Try to keep up.
According to Isaiah 7, and Daniel 9, Cyrus the Great is not the Messiah.
So if that is you answer, I accept you do not use scripture in your conclusions.
I asked you? No, I didn't.
Perhaps you got me mixed up with someone else, although I don't know who that could be.
So you aren't interested in knowing why Jews dismiss the gospels and associated Christian writings and continue to follow Jewish teachings. OK. My mistake.
Sure I am interested in that, but why claim that I asked something I did not, just because you believe they are both the same, and I don't know that?
That's like someone asking for cake, and you bringing poo to them and saying, "Here. In our country, this is cake." "You didn't know that? Well sorry, you asked for it".
I don't think being disrespectful wins any awards.
Well, I asked in post 46 if you believed in the Quran. You answered "The Qur'an, recognizes the writings I accept, so why do I need to accept the Qur'an?" This makes no sense. I pointed out that the Quran also makes claims which don't accord with Jewish teachings which explains why I don't follow it, but you never clarified your position. Or maybe I missed it -- can you point me to where you explained your position, specifically why, if you don't see it as fiction, you choose not to follow it? Thanks in advance.
Yes. You missed it.
I have to search this thread which is not very long, in order to find the same thing you missed. So why do you want me to do the searching, rather than you?
To quote you, "That's not how it looks to me."
No, he was Isaiah's future savior -- he lived some 200 years after Isaiah died. In post 62 you were having trouble finding information about the notion of Cyrus as a messiah so I found it for you. No one says you have to like it, but to then ask me about how it is something I never claimed it is is strange.