Prophethood in Judaism?

[sadiq]

Read the second post in this thread, The prophets are MEN not angelic or divine.

 

[Tamar]

Read the second post in this thread, The prophets are MEN not angelic or divine.

There are women prophets too.

Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy

Female Prophets
Sarah Gen 11:29 - 23:20
Miriam Ex. 15:20-21; Num. 12:1-12:15, 20:1
Deborah Judges 4:1 - 5:31
Hannah I Sam 1:1 - 2:21
Abigail I Sam 25:1 - 25:42
Huldah II Kings 22:14-20
Esther Esther


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/The_List_of_Prophets.html


The Talmud (Megillah 14a) says that there had been twice as many prophets as the number of people who left Egypt (2,600,000), but only those whose messages were for future generations were recorded. This count was 48 male and 7 female Prophets.
The Talmud lists the 7 females as:

1. Sarah

2. Miriam

3. Devorah

4. Hannah (mother of Shmuel)

5. Avigail (who became a wife of David Hamelech)

6. Huldah (from the time of Yirmiyahu)

7. Esther

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

There are women prophets too.

:yes:

 

[sadiq]

There are women prophets too.

Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy

Female Prophets
Sarah Gen 11:29 - 23:20
Miriam Ex. 15:20-21; Num. 12:1-12:15, 20:1
Deborah Judges 4:1 - 5:31
Hannah I Sam 1:1 - 2:21
Abigail I Sam 25:1 - 25:42
Huldah II Kings 22:14-20
Esther Esther


The List of Prophets


The Talmud (Megillah 14a) says that there had been twice as many prophets as the number of people who left Egypt (2,600,000), but only those whose messages were for future generations were recorded. This count was 48 male and 7 female Prophets.
The Talmud lists the 7 females as:

1. Sarah

2. Miriam

3. Devorah

4. Hannah (mother of Shmuel)

5. Avigail (who became a wife of David Hamelech)

6. Huldah (from the time of Yirmiyahu)

7. Esther

I know that i meant Men as normal Human beings in contrast to Angelic figures.

 

[Tamar]

I know that i meant Men as normal Human beings in contrast to Angelic figures.

When you say Men it means men to most people. For women it is important to include woman in prophethood.

If you say men and women there will be no misunderstanding especially when explaining.

So I added that women were prophets too.

 

[sadiq]

When you say Men it means men to most people. For women it is important to include woman in prophethood.

If you say men and women there will be no misunderstanding especially when explaining.

So I added that women were prophets too.

Point taken, Sorry for the misunderstanding :bow:

 

[Tamar]

Point taken, Sorry for the misunderstanding :bow:

It is ok.

 

[Caladan]

When you say Men it means men to most people. For women it is important to include woman in prophethood.

If you say men and women there will be no misunderstanding especially when explaining.

So I added that women were prophets too.

Sorry, I don't see it. I use the word 'Men' in this context all the time. the point of discussion wasn't whether they were men or women, but whether prophets or biblical figures in general are humanly flawed or not.

 

[Tamar]

Sorry, I don't see it. I use the word 'Men' in this context all the time. the point of discussion wasn't whether they were men or women, but whether prophets or biblical figures in general are humanly flawed or not.

I honestly think most men don't give thought to the language and that using "male gender" to describe both men and women is sometimes lost on women.

For me when I see the word men it means men. It excludes women and this is just my opinion.

I would never use the word women and expect it to mean men and women, nor use men to mean both men and women.

I really do not want to argue the point just pointing out how I saw it from a women's perspective.

 

[Caladan]

I would never use the word women and expect it to mean men and women, nor use men to mean both men and women.

As far as I can tell it's because it is a linguistic standard which I thought we all recognize. like saying 'Mankind' for example.

 

[Tamar]

As far as I can tell it's because it is a linguistic standard which I thought we all recognize. like saying 'Mankind' for example.

For me it is language put in place by men and for many women it is not a standard we see as always acceptable.

I was responding to the " The prophets are MEN not angelic or divine. " which for me excluded that men and women were prophets.

There are times when women need to be acknowledged and this was an instance.

Yes I see the word mankind meaning all humanity.

 

[Follow_The_Truth]

Are Lot, David, Soloman included in that 2.600.000 prophets?

There are women prophets too.


Female Prophets
Sarah Gen 11:29 - 23:20
Miriam Ex. 15:20-21; Num. 12:1-12:15, 20:1
Deborah Judges 4:1 - 5:31
Hannah I Sam 1:1 - 2:21
Abigail I Sam 25:1 - 25:42
Huldah II Kings 22:14-20
Esther Esther



The Talmud (Megillah 14a) says that there had been twice as many prophets as the number of people who left Egypt (2,600,000), but only those whose messages were for future generations were recorded. This count was 48 male and 7 female Prophets.
The Talmud lists the 7 females as:

1. Sarah

2. Miriam

3. Devorah

4. Hannah (mother of Shmuel)

5. Avigail (who became a wife of David Hamelech)

6. Huldah (from the time of Yirmiyahu)

7. Esther

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Are Lot, David, Soloman included in that 2.600.000 prophets?

You're point?

 

[Follow_The_Truth]

i hope someone can give me a answer or Lot,Soloman and David are included in that 2.600.000 prophets.. the jewish view..

You're point?

 

[Levite]

i hope someone can give me a answer or Lot,Soloman and David are included in that 2.600.000 prophets

No. None of them are considered prophets.

 

[Caladan]

Are Lot, David, Soloman included in that 2.600.000 prophets?

I'm pretty sure that Jewish members have already answered that these Biblical persons are not considered to be prophets.
in fact the Bible often illustrates a storyline which includes a monarch (such as David and Solomon) AND the prophet who advises or criticises them.
take a moment to think about that.
because if you are a Muslim it will give you a very different context in who you think is a prophet and what are his roles.

 

[Caladan]

For me it is language put in place by men and for many women it is not a standard we see as always acceptable.

I was responding to the " The prophets are MEN not angelic or divine. " which for me excluded that men and women were prophets.

There are times when women need to be acknowledged and this was an instance.

Wow. I feel that I am an oppressor of women without even intending to be.
well its like I tell my wife, 'I am a grand Inquisitor'.

Yes I see the word mankind meaning all humanity.

That is how I see it. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Tamar]

Wow. I feel that I am an oppressor of women without even intending to be.
well its like I tell my wife, 'I am a grand Inquisitor'.

That is how I see it. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Opressor of women??? I just stated my opinion.

But that being said it is how many women see it. I think unless you have walked in the shoes it is hard to understand. I do find it curious that instead of just accepting that is how I see it and it is my opinion I am now being made to feel somehow wrong that I expressed it.

 

[Caladan]

Opressor of women??? I just stated my opinion.

I was being humorous Tamar...

I do find it curious that instead of just accepting that is how I see it and it is my opinion I am now being made to feel somehow wrong that I expressed it.

I think you are seeing things which are not there.

 

[Tamar]

I was being humorous Tamar...

I think you are seeing things which are not there.

ok, Guess I need to go find my sense of humor... Sometimes it is hard to read on a page to get the sense of what someone means.


Sorry Caladan!