Surya Deva
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They may indeed have been depleted of power. However they still have a role in decision making:
Church of England Measures
Read more carefully, my friend. I said that Sonia Ghandi, an Italian born Catholic PM was elected as prime minister, but steped down from the post ---- and then elected Manmohan Singh(Sikh) However, she is still the leader of the Congress party and still has more power than Manmohan singh. Her stepping down was more of a token-act, because many Hindus were not happy with her being PM.
The point being in no other country would a foreign born person be allowed to take the highest positions of power in another country. There are 80% Hindus, we should have have Hindu leaders that represent the masses of the country.
Do you realise that just last month several bombs went off in Delhi killing many and injuring many more by Isalmic terrorists? The terrorists were from Muslim areas and lived just behind a Mosque. Do you know that Hindus have been facing oppression by Muslims living in India ever since it gained independence? The terrorism hasn't stopped, it is a routine affair in India. Another couple of months ago a wave of Islamic terrorism hit the country. Read about Kashmiri Brahmins and their persecution.
Indians cannot do anything about this terrorism because of Congress, which isn't doing anything. In recent bomb blasts, irony would have it a major Congress minister who was in charge of looking after peoples security, was more concerned about his clothes than the people. Indian people were really furious and called for his resignation. Nothing has happened because of the incompetent government in place.
Well if pornography is not a Christian problem, oppression of religious minorities is not a Hindu problem, it is also a social problem. The situation is far more complex than you care to admit or analyse.
It is actually reverse oppression. The Congress government has a system of discrimination where people of minority castes and religions are given special reservations in education, in civil service in jobs and other provision e.g., Muslims can marry as many people as they want, but Hindus cannot. The system is a sham and the recent Gujjar riots in Rajasthan go to show just how ridiculous people believe the system to be.
The congress government have tried to suppress Hindu majority in the name of looking after the minoirites. Nowhere in the world is this done. If half of the things that are done to Hindus by the Indian government took place in the Western world, the majority white people would be personally asking minorities to leave their country.
It does not make sense when you have 2% Christians and 1% Sikhs and 10% Muslims that they would get more favourable treatment than 80% Hindus. That is not secularism. That is a joke. This is why Hindu nationalist movements have arisen to fight such corruption and oppression of Hindus.
Sorry we do not agree. What some followers do in the name of religion is not the same as religion. Again, the situation is far more complex than you care to admit or analyse.
You see this is part of the academic prejudice against Hindus(I posted some article at the start of this thread on this) that began from colonial times. It is well know today that there is no Aryan invasion, that so called Aryan Indians and Dravidian Indians are one and the same people and genetically the same.
The Aryan invasion theory was a racist theory that Max Mueller and early colonial historians and Christian missionaries invented to justify their "white mans burden"
Modern scholarship has proven Aryan invasion theory to be what it was racist propoganda. We know the real history of India now. There is an unbroken continuity between the Megrah, Indus Valley and so-called Vedic period and classical period. There was no invasion, there were internal changes brought about by the drying of the Saraswati river and internal wars. The evidence of urban civilisation is also present between 2000-1000BCE. We also know the Vedic periord either precedes the IVC or is contemporous with it.
The Mahabharata is also now believed to have been a real event. I believe Want to be Hindu posted earlier, that while other religions history is taken to be real, Hindu history is taken to be myth. Yet, Indian hisory and recent research insists the Mahabharata is a real event. Indian history places the Mahabharata in 3200 BCE. This was the major turning point in Indian history as per Indian records, because after this huge war massive catacylsms occured in Indian society.
The accounts of Urban civilisation as told in the Mahabharata is consistent with IVC. The extent of trade and relationships with other countries as told in the Mahabharata is consistent with IVC. The kind of engineering and townmanship seen in Vedic texts is consistent with IVC.
Indian history has suffered at the hands of racist scholarship. They have tried to make Indian history conform to biblical chronologies and dated it according to that. The fact is Indian history is very old and goes back to some 10,000 years. If you look at the racist model the Vedic age begins around 1500BCE in India(depending on invasion date) at this point the Aryans are primitive, pastal, nomadic barbarians. Then within a few centuries they begin to write treatasies on metaphysics, grammar, astronomy. Yet, if you look at these treatises, they mention a long lineage of experts. If you even look at earlier records by the Greeks they mention a lineage of Hindu kings going back to 6000BCE.
Modern scholarship does not take the early racist scholarship seriously anymore. In fact the racist scholars themselves admitted they were guessing. All of the evidence is overwhelming indicating that Hindu civilisation is some 10,000 years old and has had a continious history. They were the first to build an advanced civilisation, which reached its technical peak in 4000-3000BCE(Mature phase is not the peak) they explored and colonised much of the world and had trade with all the major countries in the ancient world. This is how their Arya culture spread around the world. They are the original Proto-Indo-Europeans, and Vedic Sanskrit is the mother of all Indo-European languages.
This was believed by European scholars in the earliest time. But the racist Christian missionaries could not accept that. Well, they have no choice now, the evidence is so overwhelming, that many modern scholars of Hinduism and indological studies are being forced to revise history.
Hindus deserve to have their histort and heritage be properly represented in the world and all the academic racism that exists against them needs to be abolished pronto. It still continues in places like Harvard, this is a huge and royal shame to the modern age.
Anyway my original point was that there was no equal to the IVC or the classical society. There indeed wasn't no other ancient civilisation comes close to the scientific, cultural and technical excellence of the Hindu civilisation. Again read my Hindu thread. Hindus were writing treatises on linguistic computer science in 1000BCE.
My Philosophy teacher once said to me that Western Philosophy has a fetish with Greek Philosophy and seems to treat Philosophy and Science as being a Western thing. Well the truth is before the Greeks Philosophy had science had already been developed to an extent not seen until the modern age by Hindus. The modern age itself is influenced by Hindus. It is time to acknowledge the Hindu civilisation.
