Pavement art

[Geoff-Allen]

Just found this collection of art down on pavements -

https://www.boredpanda.com/44-amazing-3d-sidewalk-chalk-artworks-by-julian-beever/

Enjoy your day!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just found this collection of art down on pavements -

https://www.boredpanda.com/44-amazing-3d-sidewalk-chalk-artworks-by-julian-beever/

Enjoy your day!

I love these, but have seen them before. I do like the one picture that shows what this art looks like from the "wrong angle". This is the sort of picture that may look right from only one location. How he manages to keep that location in mind is amazing. I wonder what they look like to people that are walking by on the wrong side.

 

[PureX]

Visual gimmicks like these are fun and interesting to see, but they aren't really 'art'. They're just a glorification of the craft of visual illustration.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Visual gimmicks like these are fun and interesting to see, but they aren't really 'art'. They're just a glorification of the craft of visual illustration.

I would disagree and say that they are both. Quite often art involves a gimmick of some sort these days.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would disagree and say that they are both. Quite often art involves a gimmick of some sort these days.

We should note that Da Vinci is considered an artist, & yet
his great paintings are so cuz of sophisticated visual tricks.

 

[PureX]

I would disagree and say that they are both. Quite often art involves a gimmick of some sort these days.

I think people try to aggrandize gimmicks and decorations by calling them "art". I have nothing against what this guy's doing. I'm sure it's fun to see how the image warps and twists as you walk away from the single point of perspective to which it's oriented. But it would have to transcend mere technique and trickery to rise to the level of an actual artwork.

 

[ChristineM]

Visual gimmicks like these are fun and interesting to see, but they aren't really 'art'. They're just a glorification of the craft of visual illustration.

Too lower class for you?

Illustration is an art form.

 

[ChristineM]

Just found this collection of art down on pavements -

https://www.boredpanda.com/44-amazing-3d-sidewalk-chalk-artworks-by-julian-beever/

Enjoy your day!

Last time i holidayed in Paris we spent a day searching out pavement art. There was some really beautiful pieces.

 

[Revoltingest]

Too lower class for you?

Illustration is an art form.

Some people are too fancy pants for their own good, eh.

 

[ChristineM]

Some people are too fancy pants for their own good, eh.

Absolutely,

 

[PureX]

Too lower class for you?

Illustration is an art form.

Illustration is a craft. It's not an art form, it's an art tool.

 

[PureX]

Quite often art involves a gimmick of some sort these days.

That's true, but in a work of art, the gimmick serves a higher purpose. It's not just there to titillate.

 

[ChristineM]

Illustration is a craft. It's not an art form, it's an art tool.

You are welcome to your belief. The application of craftsmanship can be art

Of course pavement art from the Renaissance period has washed away and you would have difficulty hanging it on a wall for you to stand and ponder the deeper meaning of the artist

But if the artist considers it art and those viewing the work consider it is art and the name of the "craft" considers it art and Banksy considers it art and the definition of "performance art" considers it art then perhaps you would see value in re-evaluating your bias.

 

[ChristineM]

That's true, but in a work of art, the gimmick serves a higher purpose. It's not just there to titillate.

A definition of art
The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

Could very well be interpreted as titillation

 

[PureX]

You are welcome to your belief. The application of craftsmanship can be art.

The application of anything can be art, if it's applied to the act of making art. Otherwise, however, it's not art. It's just another tool an artist can use, or not use, to make art with. Illustration is not art. It's a craft, like metal casting, or stone carving.

Of course pavement art from the Renaissance period has washed away and you would have difficulty hanging it on a wall for you to stand and ponder the deeper meaning of the artist.

Impermanence is also an idea that an artist can use, or not use, to convey their experience of being, to others. But again, the tools and materials and processes used to create a work of art are not what defines the result as being art. Until you understand this, you understand nothing about art.

But if the artist considers it art and those viewing the work consider it is art and the name of the "craft" considers it art and Banksy considers it art and the definition of "performance art" considers it art then perhaps you would see value in re-evaluating your bias.

I don't need other people to tell me what they think it is because I already know what art is and what it's not. Art has a specific function and purpose in the world. If the purported "artwork" fulfills that function and purpose, it's art (maybe it's good art, maybe it's bad art, but it's art). If it doesn't, then it's not. What people who don't know what art is, call art, is of no consequence to me.

 

[PureX]

A definition of art
The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

Could very well be interpreted as titillation

That's not a proper definition of art, though. Sure, some art may be "titillating", but it's not the titillation that defines it as being art. Until you understand this, you understand nothing about art.

 

[Revoltingest]

You are welcome to your belief. The application of craftsmanship can be art

Of course pavement art from the Renaissance period has washed away and you would have difficulty hanging it on a wall for you to stand and ponder the deeper meaning of the artist

But if the artist considers it art and those viewing the work consider it is art and the name of the "craft" considers it art and Banksy considers it art and the definition of "performance art" considers it art then perhaps you would see value in re-evaluating your bias.

Sometimes what looks like mere craft to some can mean more to others.
The former like to put art in a well defined box, keeping some works in,
& others out. It seems a small & rigid perspective.

 

[ChristineM]

The application of anything can be art, if it's applied to the act of making art. Otherwise, however, it's not art. It's just another tool an artist can use, or not use, to make art with. Illustration is not art. It's a craft, like metal casting, or stone carving.

Ahh, another tool, like painting a masterpiece, yes i understand that Michelangelo created wonderful tools

Both metal casting and stone carving can be art if carried out artistically. But it seems you consider sculpture is not art

Spoiler: Some craft

Impermanence is also an idea that an artist can use, or not use, to convey their experience of being, to others. But again, the tools and materials and processes used to create a work of art are not what defines the result as being art. Until you understand this, you understand nothing about art.

We are not talking tools we are talking pavement art
Until you understand this you have no idea what this thread is about.

I don't need other people to tell me what they think it is because I already know what art is and what it's not. Art has a specific function and purpose in the world. If the purported "artwork" fulfills that function and purpose, it's art (maybe it's good art, maybe it's bad art, but it's art). If it doesn't, then it's not. What people who don't know what art is, call art, is of no consequence to me.

You know what you think art is. I know what i think art is. I think its rather impertinent of you to discredit art even if you don't like it

That's not a proper definition of art, though. Sure, some art may be "titillating", but it's not the titillation that defines it as being art. Until you understand this, you understand nothing about art.

That is a proper dictionary (OED) definition of art, you disagree with it talk to the dictionary compilers at Oxford.

 

[ChristineM]

Sometimes what looks like mere craft to some can mean more to others.
The former like to put art in a well defined box, keeping some works in,
& others out. It seems a small & rigid perspective.

It seems @PureX is rather strict in what he defines as art, he went to uni to learn how to disrespect and deny art that is below his rigid perspective

 

[Revoltingest]

It seems @PureX is rather strict in what he defines as art, he went to uni to learn how to disrespect and deny art that is below his rigid perspective

I'm far less sophisticated, & see art all over the place.