DavidFirth
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Because people prefer to do things their own way rather than acknowledge God's love. The devil is very effective in his work and will one day deceive the whole world into following him.
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Because people prefer to do things their own way rather than acknowledge God's love. The devil is very effective in his work and will one day deceive the whole world into following him.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Rev. 22:11
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think it's more along the line that people are turning away, especially in the west, against traditional religions. Most still say they still believe in God but w/o "definition", nor the supposed necessity of belonging to an organized religion.
Many factors, technology brings people closer to science which has evidence to back it up as opposed to bronze age stories which for the most part, don't. Improvements in education give people the confidence and independence to ask questions and analyse, in the case of religion the answers are just not feasible. Extremism/radicalism in religion (not just Islam but Jewish and christian cause their fair share of terror) is turning people away en masse. Proselytising is enough to turn anyone off. Life itself is becoming more intense with less time to to dedicate to observance. The younger generations are feeling this pressure more.
In general, religion is out of date and shows no inclination to catch up with the world.
Also note that its not just the UK, parts of Europe is going the the way, some countries surpassing the UK. Its interesting that religion is declining in america too, down 8% in 7 years.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
According the Matthew it was a whale, and it wouldn't matter anyways, as no one could survive that long in such a situation. There aren't many whales or fish that can actually swallow a human whole, and it involves teeth when they can, and digestive juices after that, plus the fact there would be no oxygen to breath.
If this happened, he wasn't in there for three days and three nights. Much like all of the many different human languages coming from the same place, the story of Jonah didn't happen and it couldn't have happened. All evidence clearly points to these things just being stories.
There's also plenty in the Bible to poke holes in. Slavery is evil, but permissible in the Bible. Abortion is opposed by many Christians, but in the Bible god commanded in a few times on a massive scale. There are several crimes--such as working on the Sabbath and being a rebellious child or having sex with someone of the same sex--that mandate the death. Do unto to others is not thought out any further than "I." It says nothing good can ever come from someone who doesn't believe in god, and it calls such people fools. Pi does not equal three, out of season fruit is not produced when it's out of season (which is why they call it "out of season," there was nothing wrong with the tree, it was just operating as god designed it), slinging any type of blood for any reason is never a good idea, and Jesus wants me killed in his presence for not wanting him to reign over me.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Then why, oh why, oh why do so many Christians get all so worked up over allowing birth control, and abortions, and same-sex marriage/adoptions, and drug usage, and language, and not believing in god, and so many other things they incessantly butt-in over when it comes to other people's lives, to the point of demanding laws to make their ways enforced upon all?
Consumerism, hedonism, post-modern deconstructionism, breakdown of the family as a source of tradition, religious scandals in the media, most people not being very educated when it comes to theology (religion is being equated with harsh fundamentalism across the board), not having the time to practice religion even if you want to due to work, lack of good religious leaders to look up to in society, etc.
Hmmm...
You have a very negative take on why people are moving away from religion.
Whilst I would agree that the reasons you have given do play a part, there are also more positive factors at play.
I wouldn't consider myself religiously uneducated, or a hedonist, for example, and I live in about as good an approximation of a 'white-picket fence' nuclear family as you're likely to find.
Altfish
Veteran Member
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy" - Monty Python, Life of Brian
Or they started to wonder how kangaroo's made it to noahs ark and similar stories from the scriptures.
Being able to question religion without being Punished for it it a big factor.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Why do people put a connection between non-belief and the likes of "Consumerism, hedonism, post-modern deconstructionism, breakdown of the family as a source of tradition..."?
I'm an atheist, yes I spend money but I know religious people who spend a whole lot more on 'consumerism'; hedonistic??Can you be hedonistic at 62? Not sure I know what "Post-modern deconstructionism" is; breakdown of the family...my family is all together, I've been married almost 40-years, my Mum and Dad have been married over 60. It has nothing to do with religion.
Religious scandals are certainly a factor especially when it is the same people who are trying to claim the moral high ground.
Have we ever been well educated in theology? I was talk the gospels at school, today I do lessons in Humanism as part of the Religious Education curriculum; I would say that today's teaching is far better than anything I ever received.
People will make time to practice their religion if they feel the need. Work hours today are a lot less than 100-years ago.
Lack of good religious leaders...well has there ever been any good ones. Today religious leaders are open to scrutiny and it is at that point that they show the weakness of their beliefs and teachings.
Altfish
Veteran Member
You do realise that atheists don't believe in the Devil either?
What a stupid comment.
I won't waste my time with you.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Go on, name one in my lifetime.What a stupid comment.
Because it isn't credible having no verifiable evidence to back it up.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
They're being indoctrinated into atheism.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
There's no verifiable evidence for your opinions.
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Altfish
Veteran Member
Whereas in previous times they were indoctrinated into theism.
We are catching up with your techniques.
Theres more verifiable evidence in that than any religion.
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