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No problem my friendSorry I must have wrote in your profile by accident.
No worries, just refer to the Writings of Baha'u'llah, as He was the return of Christ and He answered many questions.I missed Jesus return dang it i had so many questions toward him
If a builder builds a house for you and he finished building it, he does not come back and do more work unless the work he did on your house has issues in which case he will "come back" and address those issues. When Jesus died on the cross for the sins and inequities of humanity that job was done right so Jesus does not have to address any issues.When it says " IT is finished " What is the ' IT ' . At the end of building a house i say ' it is finished ' , but thats all I mean . I don't mean I've retired, from building another house , or doing the garden or the access road , or finished moving ect .
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. Yes THE work ( which work ? The atonement) Not ALL work ,But THE work he was sent to do . Raising himself from the dead was more work HE had to do also .If a builder builds a house for you and he finished building it, he does not come back and do more work unless the work he did on your house has issues in which case he will "come back" and address those issues. When Jesus died on the cross for the sins and inequities of humanity that job was done right so Jesus does not have to address any issues.
Jesus never said He had any "more work" to do in this world, He said His work was finished here and He was no more in the world. You cannot get much clearer than that.
John 17 King James Version (KJV)
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
Even of Jesus rose from the dead, which I don't believe, that does not constitute "more work."4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. Yes THE work ( which work ? The atonement) Not ALL work ,But THE work he was sent to do . Raising himself from the dead was more work HE had to do also .
John 2
19¶Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20¶Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21¶But he spake of the temple of his body.
22When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Destroy this temple, and in three days I !!!!!!!!! will raise it up." I !!!! WILL .Even of Jesus rose from the dead, which I don't believe, that does not constitute "more work."
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
Jesus did not say that the temple was His body, someone else said that Jesus was speaking of His body.
Details matter.
Destroy this temple, and in three days I !!!!!!!!! will raise it up." I !!!! WILL .
But Jesus did not say that the temple was His body.Destroy this temple, and in three days I !!!!!!!!! will raise it up." I !!!! WILL .
Have you considered that bahas writings are false? Because just a simple read of the bible certainly reveals that Jesus raised himself from the dead , Along with the Father and the Holy Spirit .But Jesus did not say that the temple was His body.
Look at the verses below and please note that Jesus did not say that the temple He was referring to was His body. The verse says But he spake of the temple of his body. The verse does not say But I spake of the temple of my body. Christians assumed that Jesus meant His body because they have confirmation bias, since they already believed what they were taught, that Jesus rose from the dead.
John 2
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Baha'is believe that the Temple Jesus was referring to was the Word of God.
Baha'u'llah has explained to all that await a 3rd temple, or the rebuild of a temple:
".... Thus have We built the Temple with the hands of power and might, could ye but know it. This is the Temple promised unto you in the Book. Draw ye nigh unto it. This is that which profiteth you, could ye but comprehend it. Be fair, O peoples of the earth! Which is preferable, this, or a temple which is built of clay? Set your faces towards it. Thus have ye been commanded by God, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting. Follow ye His bidding, and praise ye God, your Lord, for that which He hath bestowed upon you. He, verily, is the Truth. No God is there but He. He revealeth what He pleaseth, through His words “Be and it is”.
The 3 day period is a time of turmoil where the Disciples needed Faith to carry on, the body of Jesus had gone and they needed to find Faith in Spirit to carry on with what Jesus the Christ had instructed them to do.
That is a logical explanation, given by Abdu’l-Baha in the Baha'i Writings.
Jesus said in John 14.6
6¶Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
This and many other things Jesus said make it clear that all other religions , ways, paths , practices, ect are not the way ,the truth or the life .
Now this of course begs the question that the bible is true ect . But many seem to try make the bible or Jesus words fit other religions , beliefs and practices, as if its all just another way of coming to the same God .
Thoughts?
( Ps ,yes I am a Christian)
Dear @Barry Johnson
If an interpretation of spiritual scripture encourages exclusion, separation, self-righteousness, intolerance, hatred, etc; one ought to assume that it is mistaken.
Christ depicts a perspective on being. He represents the concept of a life in humility and selfless service to [all] others. That - not a particular church or book - is said to be the only way to [unity in] God.
Any interpretation that promotes a way of life opposed to that ideal must be a misinterpretation.
Humbly
Hermit
I thought he said the only way to the Father is through him ?
No, I have never considered that they are false in the over 50 years that I have been a Baha'i because I have always known that Baha'u'llah was who He claimed to be. I know because He provided evidence to back up His claims.Have you considered that bahas writings are false? Because just a simple read of the bible certainly reveals that Jesus raised himself from the dead , Along with the Father and the Holy Spirit .
That's a silly thing to say . How else would we know about Jesus? Video's? Face book ? It was 2000 years ago .No, I have never considered that they are false in the over 50 years that I have been a Baha'i because I have always known that Baha'u'llah was who He claimed to be. I know because He provided evidence to back up His claims.
A simple read of the Bible shows that men wrote stories that say that Jesus rose from the dead, that is all it shows. Anyone can write a story but a story is no proof that anything in that story ever took place.
There is no verifiable evidence that Jesus ever rose from the dead, only stories. Stories were written and gullible people believed the stories. By contrast, there is verifiable evidence of what Baha'u'llah did on His earthly mission and what He wrote in His own pen has been verified to be authentic.
We know about Jesus from the New Testament, but that is not verifiable evidence that Jesus did everything that has been attributed to Him in the New Testament.That's a silly thing to say . How else would we know about Jesus? Video's? Face book ? It was 2000 years ago .