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One God

rational experiences

Veteran Member
God the earth machine sciences ∆ not a natural mountain owned machines.

In temples and in the pyramid workings.

Those metals came out of pressurised seams where metal in gods body god form existed. Naturally sealed.

Man began with his mineral dusts melted cooled to build machines owning strings to their theories maths reaction not any space zero either......reaction.

String theory God earth changed by man and machine.

At his side he built the attack instead of having a female mother life partner he put his machine and zero math in her place.

I built it he said from gods rib. Meaning seam of metal inside earth.

Earth owned no space zero. Earth was mass pressurised by space zero.

God however was theoried owned a mother so God O earth was never considered to be holy without a mother....space pressure womb.

The biggest mistake of his unnatural science choice... AI introduction.

Man's first not any God. God did not own man's calculus to perform alchemised.

Claiming when I react a space by heat to mass I can artificially change it.

Man the designer transmitted squaring Phi signals.

Conjured an attack of God earths unsealed radiation.

Two humans one baby.

One God said man meaning self X two equation.

Exactly wrong.

Two humans created one baby.
One false man god invented by two.

So you used Phi square. Earth stone ended etched broken apart in squared blocks.

Earth however was transmitting from temple ^^^^^^^mount peaks. Where science owned transmitters.

Reasoning O volcano gas openings owned the origin of earths gases. O circle of fire gases theories from.

Not stone. Molten.

As they owned a molten machine first.

So they attacked life by phi squared why you lie about earth the creator having caused it as a God alien AI status.

You have to live and own higher DNA first not a changed DNA statement calculated after. Yep human maths sure caused change. Proved it himself genesis claim.

What was DNA before your bible confession? Not what you look at with men of science claim I have found God earths creator.

His caused AI change.

Status God released AI but originally never owned AI. Man did it to self confession. Changed life.

Science brothers hence argued. Men said God is not any alien. His brother said God created the alien.

Reality men of science changed God O earths stone ark only and conjured it.

O God is the ark stone. Still is.

Aliens transmit image from radiation cooled metals. Cooled in our heavens.

If O god was the alien no earth rock would exist anymore just radiation metal. Man's design his machine.

A confession does not make a creator.
 

Bree

Active Member
One God. Period.

In Orthodox Christianity, God is a trinity, so he isn't exactly one.

BUT in a few religions, God is absolute One. How is that possible? What are the characteristics of only One God? Why only One God?

He is 'one' just as you are one. An individual.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Let's say that somewhere in the world there is one and only one family named Applesauce. But there are several people in that family. Why can't God be like that? There is one and only one God but made of of more than one member? We speak of a father and a son. Doesn't that sound like a family? One family with several members. One God with more than one member.
Oh dear!

‘THEY (the members in the family) would be one FAMILY’

That’s not what the scriptures says about the One God of the Israelites.

The scriptures says that the ONE and ONLY God of the Israelites told his beloved nation that they, the Israelites, should not be like the pagans and the heathens around them, the pagans and heathens who worshipped MULTIPLE GODS, Deities made of wood, made of iron, made of unworthiness.

But that they should worship HIM, and ONLY HIM, their ONE GOD.

Not only that but as the Israelites became mingled with the Egyptians who enslaved them, as the Israelites started losing interest in they’d one God, in deference to the word of their one God… and started seeking the gods of their Egyptian captors, hearing their names daily, reading, seeing the pleasure of the flesh that these fake gods afforded their worshippers, Moses came and spoke to them of their true God, to which they replied, “Which God told you this?’.

Do you hear that? Moses spoke to them of their ONLY GOD, and they could not understand… They didn’t remember their one God! But instead, asked the name of WHICH God Moses was talking about!!!

Moses told them that their one God had one name: YHWH….

Moses did not say that their one God had three names, or that their one God was three and their nameS are…… one name!

No! One God; One Name!
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Oh dear!

‘THEY (the members in the family) would be one FAMILY’

That’s not what the scriptures says about the One God of the Israelites.

The scriptures says that the ONE and ONLY God of the Israelites told his beloved nation that they, the Israelites, should not be like the pagans and the heathens around them, the pagans and heathens who worshipped MULTIPLE GODS, Deities made of wood, made of iron, made of unworthiness.

But that they should worship HIM, and ONLY HIM, their ONE GOD.

Not only that but as the Israelites became mingled with the Egyptians who enslaved them, as the Israelites started losing interest in they’d one God, in deference to the word of their one God… and started seeking the gods of their Egyptian captors, hearing their names daily, reading, seeing the pleasure of the flesh that these fake gods afforded their worshippers, Moses came and spoke to them of their true God, to which they replied, “Which God told you this?’.

Do you hear that? Moses spoke to them of their ONLY GOD, and they could not understand… They didn’t remember their one God! But instead, asked the name of WHICH God Moses was talking about!!!

Moses told them that their one God had one name: YHWH….

Moses did not say that their one God had three names, or that their one God was three and their nameS are…… one name!

No! One God; One Name!
One family named Jones but with a father and a mother and a child. One Family named God but with a father and a son. The father's NAME is NOT God. The father has a name and the son has a name but they are both in the FAMILY named God.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
One family named Jones but with a father and a mother and a child. One Family named God but with a father and a son. The father's NAME is NOT God. The father has a name and the son has a name but they are both in the FAMILY named God.
Are you humanising God?

Are you forgetting that God did not create an image of himself as three persons …. He created ONE MAN, Adam. In the beginning God created ONE MAN!

But hey, Jesus is image of God, too….. Is Jesus THREE PERSONS???
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And, I did not say that the fathers name is God… I have posted many times about TITLE and NAME… are you saying you never read anything I said such that you falsely accuse me of saying something I did not say regardless of my righteous claims?

Isn’t that kind of diatribe what is criminally used to cause confusion and harden the resolve among disbelievers - just as pharaoh’s heart was hardened against the Israelites because of the despicable acts of pharaoh’s magic workers?

But such things I expect - the shame of it from one as yourself who turn truth to a lie discredits all that Jesus stood for: Worship of his Father!

So if jesus worships his father, which of the family members in your ludicrous God-Family said he was alone? How can THREE people be ALONE TOGETHER?

And what does it mean that Beside God there is no other when, according to your belief, GOD was Beside himself…….!!!!?

And which of the family members decides who is greater than who?

Indeed, in that case, why didn’t the Father come as mankind to be the saviour of mankind… remember, your claim is that both the Father and son are EQUALLY GOD!
 
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lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
I have said nothing about three persons and do not believe in three persons. I am not humanizing God but there is no reason the same rules should not apply. If a human man has a son they are both part of the same family. If God has a son they are both part of the same family. The human family might be called Smith or Jones. The spiritual family of father and son is called God. Why didn't the father come to earth to save mankind? Maybe you should ask God the Father. I have no answer but I do not question God's decision.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
I have said nothing about three persons and do not believe in three persons. I am not humanizing God but there is no reason the same rules should not apply. If a human man has a son they are both part of the same family. If God has a son they are both part of the same family. The human family might be called Smith or Jones. The spiritual family of father and son is called God. Why didn't the father come to earth to save mankind? Maybe you should ask God the Father. I have no answer but I do not question God's decision.
You mentioned ‘Father, Mother, and Son’ in your previous post, didn’t you?

Isn’t that what Trinitarians use as their ideology? Or Father, Son, Holy Spirit… Three persons: one family of God?

But you do not understand that God did not ‘HAVE’ a son… And it is silly to say that ‘God birthed a son’ since you already defined ‘God’ as the FAMILY NAME… which includes the Son!!

See, you created a mobius ring of nonsense! There is no beginning to it and no end … and yet you managed to inject an element…! Not possible!!

The reality is this:
  • A ‘Son’ is someone who does the works of the Father…
  • A ‘Son of a Father’ does not have to be a procreation of a that Father…
  • Jesus Christ told the Jews that GOD is his Father BECAUSE he, Jesus, was ‘Doing the works of his Father’ (‘Father’ is known to the Jews as ‘ALMIGHTY GOD’, hence, ‘Call no man, Father, for you have but one Father, God in Heaven’)
  • Scriptures tells us: ‘You are all children of God if you follow the Spirit of God’
You say there is no reason that the ‘rules’ shouldn’t apply!! What rules? You are taking a CREATED HUMAN RULE and applying to the UNCREATED HEAVENLY REALM!

God is one person. God is not a FAMILY OF PEOPLE!

So, No, you’re analogy is false! It only works in a HUMAN CONTEXT.

And, no matter how you try to deny it… what you express is trinitarianism!!
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
You mentioned ‘Father, Mother, and Son’ in your previous post, didn’t you?

Isn’t that what Trinitarians use as their ideology? Or Father, Son, Holy Spirit… Three persons: one family of God?

But you do not understand that God did not ‘HAVE’ a son… And it is silly to say that ‘God birthed a son’ since you already defined ‘God’ as the FAMILY NAME… which includes the Son!!

See, you created a mobius ring of nonsense! There is no beginning to it and no end … and yet you managed to inject an element…! Not possible!!

The reality is this:
  • A ‘Son’ is someone who does the works of the Father…
  • A ‘Son of a Father’ does not have to be a procreation of a that Father…
  • Jesus Christ told the Jews that GOD is his Father BECAUSE he, Jesus, was ‘Doing the works of his Father’ (‘Father’ is known to the Jews as ‘ALMIGHTY GOD’, hence, ‘Call no man, Father, for you have but one Father, God in Heaven’)
  • Scriptures tells us: ‘You are all children of God if you follow the Spirit of God’
You say there is no reason that the ‘rules’ shouldn’t apply!! What rules? You are taking a CREATED HUMAN RULE and applying to the UNCREATED HEAVENLY REALM!

God is one person. God is not a FAMILY OF PEOPLE!

So, No, you’re analogy is false! It only works in a HUMAN CONTEXT.

And, no matter how you try to deny it… what you express is trinitarianism!!
I am sure your brilliant mind knows more about God than he knows about himself.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
One God. Period.

In Orthodox Christianity, God is a trinity, so he isn't exactly one.

BUT in a few religions, God is absolute One. How is that possible? What are the characteristics of only One God? Why only One God?

Simple...He is One and the Only One worthy of worship-no 3 Godhead -

Because He said so.

There are many characteristics of your Creator. He is Merciful, Beneficent, the All-Knowing, the All-Powerful and soooooooo much more. In Islam, God has over 99 names and each one describes Him. If you google the 99 names of Allah you can see how glorious they all are.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Again... I find it quite easy to understand.

Man is a trinity... spirit, soul and body - each with a different materiality and a different purpose but still one man. God is also a trinity but just one God.

Why just one? Maybe because only one could have started the process?


saying each part of the trinity, you have three distinct individual beings in mind. God the Father, the son and the holy spirit yet these three are not three but one. What language is this?
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
saying each part of the trinity, you have three distinct individual beings in mind. God the Father, the son and the holy spirit yet these three are not three but one. What language is this?
An ill-conceived language.

Nothing of the three can be defined as different from each other … Yet everything is different about each!

None can be greater or lesser than the others … Yet they are all RANKED with the Father as the greater and the Spirit as the least…. Despite the Spirit and the Son being the property (‘Of’) of the Father!

  • The Son is OF the Father
  • The Spirit is OF the Father
  • The Father is OF …..?

  • The Son OF God
  • The Spirit OF God
  • The Father OF ….?
How many times I ask Trinitarians to explain the above lists…. And they cannot.

And:
  • Adam is created in the image of God
  • Jesus is created in the image of God
  • Adam and Jesus are not three persons as one God!

Any takers here?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
An ill-conceived language.

Nothing of the three can be defined as different from each other … Yet everything is different about each!

None can be greater or lesser than the others … Yet they are all RANKED with the Father as the greater and the Spirit as the least…. Despite the Spirit and the Son being the property (‘Of’) of the Father!

  • The Son is OF the Father
  • The Spirit is OF the Father
  • The Father is OF …..?

  • The Son OF God
  • The Spirit OF God
  • The Father OF ….?
How many times I ask Trinitarians to explain the above lists…. And they cannot.

And:
  • Adam is created in the image of God
  • Jesus is created in the image of God
  • Adam and Jesus are not three persons as one God!

Any takers here?


The trinity is man made.
Adam was human, Jesus was a miracle but yet human.

The father is one, Jesus was a creation of His, so how can a creation of the creator be God himself if he was being born and God is and always was. I don't understand why such a beautiful Creator would need to humiliate Himself in human form? How can God die? I am yet trying to understand this perspective.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
saying each part of the trinity, you have three distinct individual beings in mind. God the Father, the son and the holy spirit yet these three are not three but one. What language is this?
A love and a unity-of-one language.

When I say "my body", I have a distinct individuality of my person in mind. When I think of my spirit, it is another distinct individuality of my person in mind. In order of importance, my spirit person is more important than my body person yet without my body person, I would not be here. My soul is my other person... it remains in between the other two.

Candy, a friend of mine, was born without an eardrum or an ear. It was covered by her hair. Many doctors had reviewed her case and said nothing could be done since she had no eardrum.

One day she went up for prayer... electricity was in the air (so to speak). My soul was saying, "this is impossible" yet my spirit person said "you are about to see a miracle". After prayer she said and could prove she could hear.

For confirmation sake, the church I was going to sent her to the doctor. Doctors confirmed that she had an eardrum and all they had to do was open the skin for better hearing.

Two parts of my person talking to each other. Three parts of my person yet one.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The trinity is man made.
Adam was human, Jesus was a miracle but yet human.

The father is one, Jesus was a creation of His, so how can a creation of the creator be God himself if he was being born and God is and always was. I don't understand why such a beautiful Creator would need to humiliate Himself in human form? How can God die? I am yet trying to understand this perspective.
Because, after God had set the parameters in Genesis 1, the only way He could legally operate in the world to redeem the world was to come as a man. His love was so great, He was willing to be servant of all.

The problem that we as human have is our definitions of "death". We generally have a perspective of finality yet it is only our body that dies. As such, we really don't die, we simply put off our earth suit.

The first word "die" in Hebrew is actually a plural word.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The trinity is man made.
Adam was human, Jesus was a miracle but yet human.

The father is one, Jesus was a creation of His, so how can a creation of the creator be God himself if he was being born and God is and always was. I don't understand why such a beautiful Creator would need to humiliate Himself in human form? How can God die? I am yet trying to understand this perspective.
In Catholicism, in order to better understand the Trinity, one needs to understand the use of "essence" promulgated by Aristotle & Plato as it highly influenced the writings of the early Church.

essence
  1. the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character.
    "conflict is the essence of drama"
    • philosophy
      a property or group of properties of something without which it would not exist or be what it is.
To put it in Christian terms, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are of the essence of God the Father but clearly not precisely God the Father.
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
In Catholicism, in order to better understand the Trinity, one needs to understand the use of "essence" promulgated by Aristotle & Plato as it highly influenced the writings of the early Church.

essence
  1. the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character.
    "conflict is the essence of drama"
    • philosophy
      a property or group of properties of something without which it would not exist or be what it is.
To put it in Christian terms, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are of the essence of God the Father but clearly not precisely God the Father.


I don't think God would intend to confuse the people with his messages. The trinity just does not make sense to me. I don't think Jesus was "an essence" he was born a man. Not everyone knows the philosophical words you just said, nor did Jesus ever quote them. But Jesus did say that, Oh hear Oh Israel, the lord thy god is One Lord.
 
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