ONCE AGAIN! Facts in the Bible is supported by archaeology.

[Audie]

You think

And you "know" better?

 

[Audie]

Zeus in on, what, Mount Olympus? Go there and check.
Now research whether there was a King David, whether the
Canaanites were overthrown by the invading Jews, whether
accounts of Bronze Age culture pan out, whether Jerusalem
was the cultic and administrative center of the Jews, whether
Merneptah destroyed Gaza, whether there was a prophet
called Isaiah, whether the Philistines destroyed Shiloh etc..

Just a few
https://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/news/

Many cultures have their "creation myths" I know of none
which pan out historically, archaeologically or scientifically
as the bible.

Not one speck of the 6 day poof and flood
"Pans out".

Totally the opposite. Didnt you know?

 

[PruePhillip]

You made that up, you cannot cite one "scholar" or, "academic"
who "mocked" it.

Um... I think just about everyone, particularly most Jews.
Zionism the word coined for this.
It's the equivalent of some Iraqi's going back to Iraq during
the days of Sadaam Hussein, seizing back the land of
Babylon and rebuilding the ancient kingdom of Babylon,
complete with its language and customs.

 

[PruePhillip]

Not one speck of the 6 day poof and flood
"Pans out".

Totally the opposite. Didnt you know?

What's a six day poof?

 

[Audie]

What's a six day poof?

You know, "god" made the universe in six days of magic?

You heard of that. Dont be disingenuous.

 

[PruePhillip]

Why do you bother with an occasional fact when most of the
time-as in your post here- you just make things up?

Specifics, please.

 

[Shad]

FOX NEWS?!? That put new meaning to ROFLMAO.

Look at the source links. Fox is merely copy/paste reporting of an existing report.

 

[Audie]

Um... I think just about everyone, particularly most Jews.
Zionism the word coined for this.
It's the equivalent of some Iraqi's going back to Iraq during
the days of Sadaam Hussein, seizing back the land of
Babylon and rebuilding the ancient kingdom of Babylon,
complete with its language and customs.

"Everyone" ie, nobody. No examples. Droll.

 

[PruePhillip]

You know, "god" made the universe in six days of magic?

You heard of that. Dont be disingenuous.

Oh okay.
Seven days is symbolic language
like in "to the seven churches of Asia" when in fact there were many more churches.
Seven means completeness.
The stages of creation accord perfectly with science
first the heaven
then the earth
earth was dark and oceanic
and the skies cleared
and continents rose
and the land brought forth life (fresh water)
and then the seas brought for life (inc birds)
and finally man.

 

[Audie]

Oh okay.
Seven days is symbolic language
like in "to the seven churches of Asia" when in fact there were many more churches.
Seven means completeness.
The stages of creation accord perfectly with science
first the heaven
then the earth
earth was dark and oceanic
and the skies cleared
and continents rose
and the land brought forth life (fresh water)
and then the seas brought for life (inc birds)
and finally man.

Ah, so "genesis" means whatever you choose.

Was "the flood" an s
afternoon freshet that
got some chickens wet?

 

[PruePhillip]

"Everyone" ie, nobody. No examples. Droll.

Hostility towards Herzel and his movement was considerable amongst Jews,
particularly religious Jews. These believed that only the Messiah could restore
Israel. Many to this day still believe this.
Got a stack of books on the topic which I read before the Internet. You will have
to Google the subject. But there's no reason not to believe what I wrote.

 

[PruePhillip]

Ah, so "genesis" means whatever you choose.

Was "the flood" an sftrrnoon freshet that
got some chickens wet?

It's all about language
The whole world was flooded, okay?
but what is the "world" ?
In Babylon times it was the Babylonian empire
In Jesus times, it was Roman empire (ie the whole world was taxed)
The Pharisees said the world was those who believed in Jesus

The term "universe" has changed since I was young. It no longer means
everything that is. So it is with 'world.'
In Noah's time (Sumer) the world was that which the sky and horizon
encompassed. I don't believe the whole earth, as we know it today, was
ever under a universal flood.

 

[viole]

Zeus is on, what, Mount Olympus? Go there and check.
Now research whether there was a King David, whether the
Canaanites were overthrown by the invading Jews, whether
accounts of Bronze Age culture pan out, whether Jerusalem
was the cultic and administrative center of the Jews, whether
Merneptah destroyed Gaza, whether there was a prophet
called Isaiah, whether the Philistines destroyed Shiloh etc..

Just a few
https://www.bible-history.com/archaeology/news/

Many cultures have their "creation myths" I know of none
which pan out historically, archaeologically or scientifically
as the bible.

And your God is what? Prophets living three days in the belly of a whale? Go there and check.

And I am sorry to break it here for you, but Mt. Olympus is an actual mountain in Greece. The highest one. So, confirmed by modern geology and simple observation. LOL.

So, did I increase the likelihood that you believe in Zeus?

Fact is, Homer can present the same archeological evidence as your bible. Not to speak of the huge amount of fiction books that are based on real environments. Probably Harry Potter, King Arthur, Pinocchio and James Bond can present even better credentials than your book, for what concerns fidelity of the environment they are based in. James Bond London looks pretty realistic.

Alas. That can not, in any way, be used to increase the plausibility of other claims. Unless you believe that Excalibur has magical power because King Arthur myth took place in England (known to exist according to some archeological evidence).

I think that is quite obvious. Don't you think so?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Audie]

It's all about language
The whole world was flooded, okay?
but what is the "world" ?
In Babylon times it was the Babylonian empire
In Jesus times, it was Roman empire (ie the whole world was taxed)
The Pharisees said the world was those who believed in Jesus

The term "universe" has changed since I was young. It no longer means
everything that is. So it is with 'world.'
In Noah's time (Sumer) the world was that which the sky and horizon
encompassed. I don't believe the whole earth, as we know it today, was
ever under a universal flood.

As noted, genesis says whatever you choose to make up.

 

[Audie]

Hostility towards Herzel and his movement was considerable amongst Jews,
particularly religious Jews. These believed that only the Messiah could restore
Israel. Many to this day still believe this.
Got a stack of books on the topic which I read before the Internet. You will have
to Google the subject. But there's no reason not to believe what I wrote.

Sorry-ah, but I see every reason to not just trust your word.
You cant back it up, and I wont go look for you.

In the event it is meaningless in terms of whether the
bible actually does prophecy. ( reversal of cause and effect)

 

[lukethethird]

What on earth do you mean? If some-one makes a claim, pointing out that they have no qualifications in the field is hardly an ad-hominem argument.

'Poisoning the well'
Look it up.

 

[PruePhillip]

As noted, genesis says whatever you choose to make up.

Luke 2:1 "And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from
Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed."

Some translations say "Roman world" so that it will make sense. But Luke didn't
write that. The taxing is historic, what Luke wrote is historic - "the world" meant
to these people what it doesn't mean to us, or to Noah.

 

[Valjean]

Many serious scholars and historians did make your alleged erroneous assertion, previous to the Pilate stone being found in 1961.

How many today assert that Christ never existed ? Quite a few.

Many today are waiting for empirical evidence before forming a definite opinion.

 

[PruePhillip]

Sorry-ah, but I see every reason to not just trust your word.
You cant back it up, and I wont go look for you.

In the event it is meaningless in terms of whether the
bible actually does prophecy. ( reversal of cause and effect)

There's a lot out there, you just have to go find it.

For two millennia, Jews have concluded every festive meal with a song of lamentation and hope; they would say of the return to Zion, “We were like dreamers!” And indeed that is what it took to galvanise an entire nation to return home. There were dreamers and visionaries who saw so far beyond the norm that they were scorned and mocked.
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/23739770.2015.1037579

 

[Audie]

'Poisoning the well'
Look it up.

Try following your own advice