Nudity

[Sunstone]

It is a fact that opposite sexes get sexually aroused upon seeing the other sex nude that is 95 % of the time because you can simply not like what you see and thus not get aroused.... So if we would say nudity is OK then it would be the equivalent of saying sexual arousal is OK then we would have to find a way to end that arousal , that burning sensation that has to be dealt with somehow.... so it will be either by masturbation or by sex .

From where do you get this interesting "fact" that opposite sexes get sexually aroused 95% of the time upon seeing the other sex nude?

You seem to be saying that sexual arousal is not OK because it must be resolved either through masturbation or through sex. But why are those the only two choices? Sexual arousal will eventually go away if nothing is done about it. Why isn't that among the choices you offer?

Masturbation is OK for most ppl but if you were to look at it scientifically you would find it hurts mentally and physically.

Hurts both mentally and physically? Are you masturbating with sandpaper then? Where is your proof that maturbation hurts us in any way? And specifically how does it hurt us?

Sex on the other hand is ok if you are married but if you're not married it would just make society sink in what it has sunk in till now , sex sex sex and more sex everybody sleeping with everybody ... aids ... illegitimate children .... Single mothers and so on and so forth and that is all the result of nudity and men and women mingling without any rules or regulations.

I think you've got a slippery slope fallacy going here. How precisely does nudity result in all the things you ascribe? Ever hear of responsible sex?

Tell me where I am wrong …. Tell me that is not happening and society is not being damaged in any way.

Among that fraction of society that I hang out with, nudity has not notably caused any problems at all that I can see.

 

[linwood]

Tell me where I am wrong …. Tell me that is not happening and society is not being damaged in any way.

I don`t have enough time or space to even begin.

 

[Valjean]

What is arousing has always been culturally determined and pretty fluid. The old song: "In olden times a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. Now heaven knows, anything goes..." comes to mind.

There's nothing intrinsically lascivious about any style of dress -- or undress. As has been pointed out, tropical societies wearing minimal clothing are not characterized by high rates of promiscuity or sexual license.

A "glimpse of stocking" in an Arab country might indeed be quite arousing, while an entirely nude person in a German park, Mediterranean beach or Amazon community would hardly be noticed.

 

[SoulTYPE]

Does this go for ANIME nudity as well?

 

[Christopher Krajewski]

We would have to know the definition of the family. But God directs that as much as man. That includes the fall from grace which isn't programmed.

In days gone by, it was much lamented to leave it up to the divine involver how love should be consumated, saved for, and properly disposed in and through nudity. One needed to know much often the cult. WE have disposed the divine involver from cults to appropriation which is just as well the inappropriation. But the environmental religious question can and must now focus on the meaning of 'inappropriation'. Is this a symbolic quality for the psyche, or after-all in the environment, a costly badly maligned enterprise .

The way on is to deal real waste in our natural "convergence" on the Cannon of Reason. But then the unvierse I believe does care when we also CARE for its creator .

Caring was and still is contained in the heart of calling, what of it if my existentialist destractions fail me and love and life.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Christopher - I mean no disrespect by this, but I have to ask - What the heck did your post mean? Also, did it address the issue of nudity? I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but it almost looked as though that post was meant for another thread.

Thanks,
TVOR

 

[SoulTYPE]

In days gone by, it was much lamented to leave it up to the divine involver how love should be consumated, saved for, and properly disposed in and through nudity.
The way on is to deal real waste in our natural "convergence" on the Cannon of Reason. But then the unvierse I believe does care when we also CARE for its creator .
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I understood it quite well. To me it sounds like it is up to the person's thoughts and beliefs on nudity

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Thanks, Soultype. I just didn't get it. I read three or four times, and for whatever reason, I just couldn't follow the post.

If you have read it and understand it correctly, and that is indeed what it says, then I would not disagree.

TVOR

 

[Yerda]

So if we would say nudity is OK then it would be the equivalent of saying sexual arousal is OK

Sexual arousal is off course equally as unnatural as nudity.

so it will be either by masturbation or by sex

Again I see your point, it would be entirely contemptible to expose anyone to either of these odious acts.

Masturbation is OK for most ppl but if you were to look at it scientifically you would find it hurts mentally and physically.

Scientifically eh? Like through a microscope? That would hurt your eyes after a while for sure, and I suppose the torment from your peers at using a microscope would leave emotional scarring.

sex sex sex and more sex

Sounds awful.

everybody sleeping with everybody

I'm not even tempted.

... aids ... illegitimate children .... Single mothers and so on and so forth and that is all the result of nudity and men and women mingling without any rules or regulations.

This calls for textbooks and government guidelines.

Tell me where I am wrong …. Tell me that is not happening and society is not being damaged in any way

I don't have AIDS, neither has anyone I know. I don't have any illegitimate (I hate that term) kids, and I'm not a lone parent. I know three single mothers, one is married, one is widowed.

On all of these issues sex education is proven to be helpful and I suspect there is no correlation with nudity.

 

[jewscout]

I just happened to remember a quote from Larry Flynt on the subject of nudity for all those who may find it offensive:

If the human body's obscene, complain to the manufacturer, not me

bless you Larry Flynt!

 

[TamerAhmad]

Sunstone although I don’t really like the way you are talking to me I still won’t get into it and Quote you :

From where do you get this interesting "fact" that opposite sexes get sexually aroused 95% of the time upon seeing the other sex nude?

You seem to be saying that sexual arousal is not OK because it must be resolved either through masturbation or through sex. But why are those the only two choices? Sexual arousal will eventually go away if nothing is done about it. Why isn't that among the choices you offer? .

Well if you get hit on the head a million times I doubt you'd feel anything after that ....the fact that you think men do not get sexually aroused 95% of the time upon seeing female nudity comes from the fact that you have already seen so much nudity it has become meaningless to you ... this my friend means that you lack one of the very beautiful human feelings a man should enjoy ( only with his wife that is ) it means and I mean no offence that you feel just like animals feel when they see each other cloth less ; nothing ... that’s not good...not good at all.

Ok it doesn’t have to be 95% I can argue with that , make it even 50% ... but can you argue that if you look at a nude woman, I mean really look you don’t get even the slightest bit aroused 50% of the time ?.

I agree again ; yes sexual arousal may go away and that is a third option but I didn’t mean that every time you see a nude woman you would have to either masturbate or have sex but again nudity eventually leads to either .

Hurts both mentally and physically? Are you masturbating with sandpaper then? Where is your proof that maturbation hurts us in any way? And specifically how does it hurt us?.

Why are you so upset that someone said masturbation hurts you ... calm down man ... I heard it from some doctors , they say it can induce premature ejaculation and with time weaken your erection and mentally it weakens your will your eyesight and is one of the causes of depression ... I never searched for it online if that’s what you mean but that doesn’t mean the theory is wrong , but still you don’t have to believe me .

I think you've got a slippery slope fallacy going here. How precisely does nudity result in all the things you ascribe? Ever hear of responsible sex?

That’s exactly what I mean " responsible sex " is what you came up with to solve the issues of men and women wanting sex sex and more sex all the time ... and nudity is only a ring in that circle ... women wear revealing semi nude cloths to show how hot they are and thus attract men to have sex with them , businesses are built on the fact that sex and porn are in great demand so they provide everything needed for " responsible sex "or even irresponsible sex and so society is drowning in a sexual ocean of porn and nudity but still you deny that you have problem... well if you think its ok for men and women to have sex with whomever they please without marriage resulting in hundreds of thousands of children who don’t know who their father is , if you think nudity is not contributing anything to that , then it's up to you but I think you are either lying to yourself, or it’s the fact that you have lived all your life that way so you don't feel how wrong or bad it is and that’s why you say :

Among that fraction of society that I hang out with, nudity has not notably caused any problems at all that I can see.

Well of course it hasn’t, why should it : when you can sleep with any woman who is willing to even if it were only for the fun of it .... when you can use protection ...when you can watch porn all you like then what’s the problem ... but is it right ... is this what life is supposed to be like ... you tell yourself , I already know why I 'm here and how I should or shouldn’t live .



To truthseekingsoul I say:

Some truth you're seeking.....by making fun of other ppls oppinions.

You know I put Ahmed in my name to tempt ppl like you to reveal how exactly they deal with Arab Muslims…So go right ahead show me more !





Regards,

 

[SoulTYPE]

It is an unfortunate affair that men get aroused so much easier than women do

 

[kreeden]

I do not find nudity offensive, but some bodies in my opinion are not meant to be seen naked.

:biglaugh: And I have a body that proves your opinion Master V. . I couldn't agree more .

 

[Yerda]

To truthseekingsoul I say:

Some truth you're seeking.....by making fun of other ppls oppinions.

You know I put Ahmed in my name to tempt ppl like you to reveal how exactly they deal with Arab Muslims…So go right ahead show me more

I apologise if I've hurt you're feelings, that was not my intention.

I often use humour (granted not everyone sees it that way) to make my point.

Your post contained several claims:

* Nudity and sexual arousal are somehow wrong.
* Sexual arousal must always result in sex or masturbation.
* Masturbation is mentally and physically damaging.
* AIDS, illegitimate children, and single mothers are all the result of nudity.

These all strike me as ridiculous.

* Nudity is our natural state, sexual arousal is a programmed and completely natural response.

* Most (non-religious) doctors will not tell you masturbation is damaging but the opposite.

* AIDS is believed to be caused by a virus called HIV, illegitimate children are children born without married parents, and single mothers can be divorced, widowed or separated.

Lastly, although I'm unsure what you are attempting to insinuate with your final statement I have an idea. Well, buddy, for all I knew you may well have been a European muslim, African American, or Aussie, the little slogan you used "ppl like you" reveals more about yourself than me.

 

[Sunstone]

Sunstone although I don’t really like the way you are talking to me...

My apologies if I've somehow offended you.

What I don't understand about your position on nudity, TamerAhmad, is how you get from nudity itself to such social evils as fatherless children. It seems to me that you have demonstrated no real or necessary link between those things.

 

[SoulTYPE]

Age old question - Why can men go topless and not women? I think it's more of a sacred belief than an actual LAW.

 

[Majikthise]

I have no problem at all with nudity ,but my mom nude is not something I want to experience.



Q; Does anybody actually know why men have nipples?

 

[Yerda]

Q; Does anybody actually know why men have nipples?

A: They are actually small analogous dials which when turned in sync can coordinate global weather restructuring...or open mail.

 

[Sunstone]

A: They are actually small analogous dials which when turned in sync can coordinate global weather restructuring...or open mail.

That explains why all my mail popped open that time I spread jelly on my chest and let my dog lick it off.

 

[Yerda]

That explains why all my mail popped open that time I spread jelly on my chest and let my dog lick it off.

Did it get cold out?