No More Face Masks...

[pearl]

A number of pilots have taken all the passengers

I was more or less thinking of one who must take another with her/him, like their spouse or child.

 

[Secret Chief]

There is nothing saying anyone can't continue to wear masks. I suppose some are needing the government telling them what to do.

Of course. If anyone asks me about wearing my mask I'll tell them I'm exempt.

 

[Nakosis]

Of course. If anyone asks me about wearing my mask I'll tell them I'm exempt.

Personal choice.

 

[RestlessSoul]

In France as of 11 jan, 90% of the population had been vaccinated. (The government changed the minimum age limit for vaccination on 12th so that instantly became 81%)

At the same time hospitals were reporting 90% of their UCU beds occuupied by non vaccinated people suffering covid symptoms.

This means that 90% of genuine medical need for ICU beds is not happening.

And I have no reason to believe the situation is not similar in othere countries

So assume a friend or relative was in need of an ICU bed for a life threatening illnesses but had to die because the beds were full of covid patients.

How would you feel about those relevant facts then?

According to latest figures from the ONS, hospital admission rates in the U.K. due to Covid have fallen for the second week running, having apparently peaked a long way below their high point of January 2021. Something like 80% of admissions were people aged 75 and over, which is exactly what you would expect to see from flu and other viruses at this time of year.

I’ve no idea what the situation is in France.

 

[ChristineM]

According to latest figures from the ONS, hospital admission rates in the U.K. due to Covid have fallen for the second week running, having apparently peaked a long way below their high point of January 2021. Something like 80% of admissions were people aged 75 and over, which is exactly what you would expect to see from flu and other viruses at this time of year.

I’ve no idea what the situation is in France.

That didn't answer my question.

And are you saying people of 75 and over are of no consequence?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics
Indicates the last three recorded days admission rates have reduced but have almost continually increased from the low of may/june 2021

But yes, it seems to have peaked, is that a reason to relax vigilance? I would say when there are no new admissions then think about relaxing the rules

 

[Valjean]

They don't need to filter viruses. They just need to filter the water droplets that contain the viruses.

That was the original assessment, when it was thought covid spread mostly by droplet contamination andcontaminated surfaces. It's since been discovered that airborne transmission is significant.

 

[Valjean]

I've already said that they have some effect.

However, if you think that you can carry on breathing without affecting the humidity in a small space, you believe in fantasy.

What does the inside mask humidity have to do with anything?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In the UK.

Does this make you happy or worried?

Very happy for them. Now if only the US would end this lunacy, but fat chance of that happening with Dementia Joe and his authoritarian cronies in office. They're currently getting a pounding in the courts with their illegal mandates and obviously in the upcoming Midterms, anyway.

 

[InChrist]

In the UK.

Does this make you happy or worried?

It doesn’t really impact me, since I’m not in the UK. I am glad for the people there, though. I hope such measures happen in the US.

Here are some studies if you’re interested in some scientific observations concerning mask wearing.

Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards? - PubMed


Effects of wearing N95 and surgical facemasks on heart rate, thermal stress and subjective sensations - PubMed

 

[metis]

We know with absolute certainty that wearing the masks save lives even though they're far from perfect.

As for my wife & I, we do the science, not the political propaganda that's literally killing people. And if one's church says that masks aren't important, then I recommend those in that congregation find a real pro-life church that's not steeped in secular politics and dishonesty.

 

[InChrist]

We know with absolute certainty that wearing the masks save lives even though they're far from perfect.

As for my wife & I, we do the science, not the political propaganda that's literally killing people. And if one's church says that masks aren't important, then I recommend those in that congregation find a real pro-life church that's not steeped in secular politics and dishonesty.

From my perspective, breathing oxygen and fresh air according to God’s design, rather than one’s exhaled carbon dioxide over and over, is pro-life.

 

[Valjean]

From my perspective, breathing oxygen and fresh air according to God’s design, rather than one’s exhaled carbon dioxide over and over, is pro-life.

I wore a mask for ~6 hours straight today. I did not suffer from either anoxia or CO2 poisoning.

Spreading a disease to friends, family and the general public is, in my opinion, not pro life.

 

[oldbadger]

In the UK.

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Does this make you happy or worried?

It's ok ...
We've kept the rules for nearly two years and soon we won't have to.

Neither happy nor worried.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's ok ...
We've kept the rules for nearly two years and soon we won't have to.

Neither happy nor worried.

I think most everyone had done their part for long enough.

But there's a limit and now that limit has passed.

Time to make masks optional now.

 

[Martin]

In England, the mask mandate ceases on Thursday, so we won't be required to wear them in shops and on public transport. I feel sorry for the staff working in those settings.

 

[Twilight Hue]

In England, the mask mandate ceases on Thursday, so we won't be required to wear them in shops and on public transport. I feel sorry for the staff working in those settings.

They can protect themselves.

 

[Martin]

They can protect themselves.

Not really. Masks reduce the risk of an infected person passing the virus to others, but provide little protection for the wearer when others nearby are infected. So retail and transport staff will be at greater risk of infection when the mask mandate ends.
I also feel sorry for people who are particularly vulnerable to infection, and will now worry about going into shops, and travelling on public transport.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Not really. Masks reduce the risk of an infected person passing the virus to others, but provide little protection for the wearer when others nearby are infected. So retail and transport staff will be at greater risk of infection when the mask mandate ends.
I also feel sorry for people who are particularly vulnerable to infection, and will now worry about going into shops, and travelling on public transport.

It's not your business what others do.

Its your responsibility. Get a better mask for yourself. That's how it's supposed to work.

 

[Valjean]

Not really. Masks reduce the risk of an infected person passing the virus to others, but provide little protection for the wearer when others nearby are infected. So retail and transport staff will be at greater risk of infection when the mask mandate ends.
I also feel sorry for people who are particularly vulnerable to infection, and will now worry about going into shops, and travelling on public transport.

A properly fitted mask will provide signficant protection for the wearer.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Masks reduce the risk of an infected person passing the virus to others..

I'm sure that there is a slightly reduced risk, but vaccination reduces the risk even more.

How long should we all be wearing surgical masks for, do you think?
Another 6 months?
Another 6 years?

I'm glad it will no longer be compulsory, so decriminalised.
I hope it lasts, but am not "holding my breath"