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Discussion in 'Monotheism' started by syo, May 9, 2018.

  1. QuestioningMind

    QuestioningMind Well-Known Member

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    Little surprise that the Old World was living in sin, when God was telling them that slavery and genocide were perfectly okay. So God finally figured out that he was being an angry immoral God and decided to change when Jesus came. Kind of suggests that morality can change. How do we know that God isn't going to change his mind again in the future and become the angry immoral God he started out as?
     
  2. Desert Snake

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    When I say Jesus, it's because I'm differentiating from when i say God.

    So, not sure really, what you're trying to say.


    Jesus is the Nazarene, the bringer of the Good news.

    // I think you're getting theology nature mixed up with persons in the Godhead. That's why Jesus has a separate name, presumably.
     
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    In that I was replying to syo's post, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.
     
  4. Desert Snake

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    Theologically, Jesus is God, part of the godhead. So, no one changed their mind, and you are essentially calling Jesus an immoral being.

    I know that was in context to what syo wrote, I don't agree with syo's argument in that regard, but I already posted my opinion regarding that.

    // meant sarcastically, your post could mean that you think the Bible is nonsense, so that's probably what you mean.
     
  5. Desert Snake

    Desert Snake Veteran Member

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    OT

    JESUS

    Sacrifice

    Judgement


    Who changed their mind?
     
  6. QuestioningMind

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    I agree that most Christians do claim that God and Jesus are one and the same. So how do you reconcile the angry immoral God of the OT with the loving and caring God of the NT?
     
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    I don't notice a need to reconcile anything.
     
  8. QuestioningMind

    QuestioningMind Well-Known Member

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    Really? Have you actually read about the God in the OT? So you're saying that Jesus condones slavery, just like the God on the OT does? If he does, then that makes Jesus just as immoral as the God of the OT.
     
  9. Desert Snake

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    Yes I have read the OT. When we say 'God', which god do you think we're talking about?

    If Jesus does not agree with something in the OT, then the law is modified. Circumcision is annulled altogether, and the dietary laws are modified.

    Hence why you are not a Believer. Therefore this is your argument that affects your religious belief, but it doesn't affect mine.
     
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    I'm just trying to understand how you can worship a God who thinks that it's perfectly okay to own other people as property like livestock and beat them to the verge of death.
     
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    it depends on how we act, i guess. but we have jesus now. :)
     
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    So WE decide what's moral and what's not. And when WE decided that the god of the OT was an immoral thug WE decided to create Jesus to take his place. I guess that makes sense, because all that's really required to act in a moral manner is to have the ability to empathize. No gods required at all.
     
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    syo Well-Known Member

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    god is to give us eternal life. :)
     
  14. Woberts

    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    That's some really good evidence you got there, pal.
     
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    yes, there is no evidence, but faith. and Jesus return from the dead, didn't he?
     
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    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    No, he didn't.
     
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    isn't that pessimism?
     
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    Woberts The Perfumed Seneschal

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    And what if it is? Would that change anything, in regards to theology?
     
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    no, it wouldn't. theology doesn't change easily.
     
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    Dream on.
     
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