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Why do some people think that is impossible?
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Why do some people think that is impossible?
But nature is breaking down.
This is news to me. I guess I'll call building services and have them fix it.
Some "god" you describe there. I suppose he had a good run.The only approach I could see a person taking in this path would be to say God is nature, but nature is breaking down, so God is dying and there is nothing you can do about it. All is pointless.
Perhaps you'd get more than guesses if you ask them instead of us?Why do some people think that is impossible?
This is news to me. I guess I'll call building services and have them fix it.
Some "god" you describe there. I suppose he had a good run.
Well, isn't it? With all of pollution and destroying natural territories, other species, etc.
No that actually is pretty good. However with such a view I would have a hard time calling that "god" if there isn't any inherent worth or purpose for all of it. Which is why my first statement to the OP was that I would almost wanna call it atheism. Not that an atheist has to be nihilist like in buddhism and it is generally hard enough to label everything god without having some sort of god attributes.Does anyone see a better way to align these two other than:
God is nature, but nature is breaking down, so God is dying and there is nothing you can do about it. All is pointless.
This is fundamentally what nihilism is, and fundamentally what Pantheism is. If one wanted to merge the two, I think this state accurately sums up the thesis on which to build the ideology.
For the nihilist, concrete things like "human beings" and "purpose in the Universe" would be empty of particular meaning. This doesn't necessarily entail denial, it may simply be envisioned as putting them in a particular context. For instance, in Kyoto Zen Buddhism, "Awakening to the emptiness of all things, to their lack of substantial own-being or egoity (Japanese: shogyômuga), thus frees one both from an ego-centered and reified view of things, and from the illusion of the substantial ego itself."Do nihilists deny that human beings/intelligent beings
create/find purpose in the Universe
AS It relates to Them?
(and They relate to It?)
No doubt a possibility. I've thought of this aspect before though what you describing sounds more like deism.Its more than possible to reconcile the two ideologies once you give up the assumption that in order to be "God" this being must either be: A) an "Entity" as we understand the term to mean (if this being is beyond singular consciousness, then all might be meaningless simply because the creator being lacks the ability to form intent) or B) given over to intervening in the universe (reality as we know it). Just because there is a "God" doesn't mean that God has to be doing jack about anything. A painter can create a painting and then simply walk away. Similarly a modern art painter can create something without any meaning imbedded in the work; he merely lets people believe whatever they want to believe about the painting (not that I agree that this is art mind you). MTF
No doubt a possibility. I've thought of this aspect before though what you describing sounds more like deism.
No that actually is pretty good. However with such a view I would have a hard time calling that "god" if there isn't any inherent worth or purpose for all of it. Which is why my first statement to the OP was that I would almost wanna call it atheism. Not that an atheist has to be nihilist like in buddhism and it is generally hard enough to label everything god without having some sort of god attributes.
It's a fine line. Buddhism finds the joy in the meaningless causation, while nihilism usually only sees the pointlessness.But Buddhism isn't nihilistic.
Would you consider purpose and meaning attachment? At least buddhism is goal oriented but where is it leading?But Buddhism isn't nihilistic.