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Featured New Testament - can someone help please

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Te Reweti Wharepapa, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. 2ndpillar

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    Again, you are
     
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    You appear misinformed. Marduk/Bel, the sun god of Babylon, was worshipped by the Jews, as well as Ra and Helios, and it was idolatry, and the Jews paid the price. The Jews indeed worshipped “other gods” (Jeremiah 35:15) Ezekiel 8 listed gods worshipped by the “house of Israel” (Ezekiel 8:6)

    The sun god Helios is often portrayed in synagogues. Lest you think that all this is confined to Judaism, let me close with a picture of Jesus—under St. Peter’s in Rome, no less—portrayed as the sun god Helios. First Person: The Sun God in the Synagogue - Biblical Archaeology Society

    Ezekiel 8:16,” 16 Then he brought me into the inner courtyard of the Lord’s house. About 25 men were there. They were at the entrance to the Lord’s temple between the porch and the altar. Their backs were turned toward the temple. Their faces were turned toward the east. And they were bowing down to the sun.

    Marduk - Wikipedia
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    You're confusing an action that defied Jewish Law whereas the offenders were punished versus Jewish Law itself. Here are the 613 Commandments of Judaism, so see where it says that one can worship any deity other than God, including the sun: Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

    Also, as I posted last, God and Jesus are often symbolized in terms of "light", including the "sun", but neither the light nor the sun was to be worshiped. Venerated, yes; worshiped, no.

    What you are conflating is how ancient symbols were altered to be used as Jewish and/or Christian symbols, but such symbols certainly were not to be worshiped in either religion as that is strictly forbidden by both.
     
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    You will not find your 613 writings of the “lying Scribes”(Jeremiah 8:8) within the confines of the ark of the covenant.

    New American Standard Bible Jeremiah 8:8
    "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.


    Neither the Jews nor the “Christian” Gentiles have kept the Commandments which are within the confines of the arc of the covenant. According to the Gentile’s false prophet Paul, the Gentiles are “released from the Law” (Romans 7:6) They don’t keep the Sabbath, they have multiple gods, the Trinity, is used as a core principal of faith, they have graven images, and they display the sign of the dragon, Sol Invictus, in the form of his pagan cross symbol, given to Constantine in 312 AD as a symbol in which to conquer the world.

    If you want to see a graven image of the sun god Apollo, look to the basement of the Vatican, or to see other graven images, go to the interior of Saint Peter’s basilica, or to my Catholic neighbor’s front yard and her statue of the queen of heaven. The historical pagan queen of heaven is Astarte, whose day of worship is Easter, a date established at the Council of Nicaea, convened by the head of the pagan church, Pontifex Maximus Constantine, the Emperor of Rome, the 7th head of the beast of Revelation 17:10.

    The “light” of John 1:4 is the “Word of God” (Revelation 19:13), and represents the actual “Law” and the “prophets” (Matthew 5:17). Yeshua is just the “light” made “flesh” (John 1:14), such as the fulfilling of the “law” and the “prophets”.
     
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    Land = earth.
    Jesus appointed Paul in the bible--That means you just called Jesus satan---can you see your darkness?
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    :rolleyes:

    You have no idea what you're talking about, including the fact that the 613 Laws are found in the first five books of your Bible that you quote from.

    Maybe go and do some studying before writing such nonsensical trash.
     
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    The “first five books of your bible” are not found in the Arc of the Covenant. Ancillary laws were added after Israel was found worshipping a golden calf.
     
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    The order was given by “LORD my God” (Zechariah 11:4), “Pasture the flock doomed to slaughter”. There were 3 shepherds involved (Zechariah 11:8), Paul (Zechariah 11:10), Judas Iscariot (Zechariah 11:13) & (Matthew 27:9), and Peter (Zechariah 11:17), the “worthless shepherd”. The “darkness” comes about when you follow that which is not in line with the Law and the prophets” (Isaiah 8:20), which would include following the false prophet Paul.
     
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    The darkness of this world amazes me that so many are clueless.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Why does the above strike me as being so funny?
     
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    Jesus said it would be that way--He compared these last days to Noahs day( 99% mislead) he said--the world took no note. As well- John 15:20-21) that on account of his name some would do things against the true followers because they don't know the one who sent him. = Father( John 5:30)--Jesus told the world at John 17:1-6,26-- The one who sent him=Father) is THE ONLY TRUE GOD. verse 6= YHWH(Jehovah) 26 =YHWH(Jehovah)
    Trinitarians outright refuse to believe Jesus first over a man with a white collar on--not a wise path at all.
    Paul believed him-1Cor 8:6)
     
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