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Never Agree To Be Searched Without A Warrant

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some real research for any who care about reality Efficacy of drug detection by fully-trained police dogs varies by breed, training level, type of drug and search environment - PubMed
For those who are averse to clicking and reading, it depends on the drug, the breed and the situation. The ranking of drugs from the easiest to the most difficult to detect was: marijuana, hashish, amphetamine, cocaine, heroin. German shepherds were superior to other breeds in giving correct indications while Terriers showed relatively poor detection performance.
I've perused multiple studies in the past. Among the problems...
- Dogs trained to detect now legal substances, eg, pot.
- Clever Hans effect.
- Corrupt handlers triggering the dog to alert.
- Roadside distractions, eg, smells, activity, noise.
- Poorly trained handlers.
- Poorly trained K9s.
- Cocaine being on most money.

If cops can't tell the difference between Krispy Kreme
glaze & crystal meth, how can we rely upon them using
coke sniffing dogs?
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A few insults in good fun are ok.

I just get tired of sexist stuff. If its unconscious, that is some ways worse.
Not everything that involves gender & sex is sexist.

It reminds me of Ricky Gervais's joke about Caitlyn Jenner.
Did it mock trans folk? Women? Stereotypes about women?
Or her speeding car killing someone?

I think it's the last 2.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
Not everything that involves gender & sex is sexist.

It reminds me of Ricky Gervais's joke about Caitlyn Jenner.
Did it mock trans folk? Women? Stereotypes about women?
Or her speeding car

Dint implicate it was.
Ya bilge- swillin' swab.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
Contrary to the advice given in most of these anti-police topics... when confronted by law enforcement, respectful behavior and cooperation goes a long way.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Cops searching your, your car, or your home will never help you.
The purpose of searches is to find something...never to exculpate you.

Think you have nothing to hide?
You might have something they could trump up.
Or lacking that, they might plant something to find.
Also in some states if you carry too much cash they can and will take it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Also in some states if you carry too much cash they can and will take it.
It can happen in every state, even those with
civil forfeiture reform laws on the books.
How?
- Ignorant or corrupt cops
- FBI
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
If cops can't tell the difference between Krispy Kreme
glaze & crystal meth
It is absolutely pathetic that happened. This seriously screams don't let them search because they are anticipating finding something, even if it's a legal substance (I knew someone who spent a bit of time in jail over oregano).
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Cops searching your, your car, or your home will never help you.
The purpose of searches is to find something...never to exculpate you.

Think you have nothing to hide?
You might have something they could trump up.
Or lacking that, they might plant something to find.

It seems that this is yet another human rights abuse which is a direct consequence of the War on Drugs.

If not for the War on Drugs, what else would they search people for?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is absolutely pathetic that happened. This seriously screams don't let them search because they are anticipating finding something, even if it's a legal substance (I knew someone who spent a bit of time in jail over oregano).
When arrest is the goal, even spices
& donuts become illegal drugs, eh.

Tis a travesty & a great danger that such
dumb & corrupt cops have so much power.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Doesn't mean they won't search for them.
But the War On Drugs is indeed a big instigator.

Well, they could always go with the old stand-by of "a car matching this description was seen at a robbery..."

I imagine they didn't need to do stuff like pull people over and search them back before there were automobiles. Who's going to want to search a horse for drugs?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Cops searching your, your car, or your home will never help you.
The purpose of searches is to find something...never to exculpate you.

Think you have nothing to hide?
You might have something they could trump up.
Or lacking that, they might plant something to find.


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