NATO Says Missile That Hit Poland Was Likely Ukraine Air Defense

[Father Heathen]

I don’t support Putin, but before this war broke out the Ukrainian state was known for its corruption and bro- Nazis brutality. How is it that overnight it has become a good “democracy” and its victims forgotten?

America certainly has its own share of right-wing extremists, white nationalists, corruption, etc. Would that make it okay for China to invade and occupy our land and then rape, torture, and murder American citizens? Would you be a "warmonger" and want America to resist, or would you want "peace" and allow your state to be annexed by China and for your family to live under it's rule?

 

[InChrist]

America certainly has its own share of right-wing extremists, white nationalists, corruption, etc. Would that make it okay for China to invade and occupy our land and then rape, torture, and murder American citizens? Would you be a "warmonger" and want America to resist, or would you want "peace" and allow your state to be annexed by China and for your family to live under it's rule?

It is the job of our government to protect this country. It doesn’t have the authority to police the world or interfere with the government of other countries which makes things worse; as the U.S. did by instigating a coop in 2014 in Ukraine and replacing an elected leader.
At the rate we are going, by spreading our military at the world and depleting our resources we will be very vulnerable if or when China decides to invade and occupy our land.

 

[Father Heathen]

It is the job of our government to protect this country. It doesn’t have the authority to police the world or interfere with the government of other countries which makes things worse; as the U.S. did by instigating a coop in 2014 in Ukraine and replacing an elected leader.
At the rate we are going, by spreading our military at the world and depleting our resources we will be very vulnerable if or when China decides to invade and occupy our land.

Do you consider assisting/defending our allies and upholding freedom and democracy as "policing the world"? Do you consider our involvement in WW2 a mistake?

 

[InChrist]

Do you consider assisting/defending our allies and upholding freedom and democracy as "policing the world"? Do you consider our involvement in WW2 a mistake?

I’ll try getting back to this later... have an appointment.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Why would Ukraine do it on purpose knowing it would easily be traced back to them? It wouldn't make any sense.

Exactly. The only reason Ukraine has the slight upperhand currently, is because they are flooded with weapon systems and other types of help by primarily NATO countries.

Pulling such an insane stunt would put the entire backing operation in jeapordy.
Without the western help, Ukraine would be completely run over in a matter of weeks.

It would be suicide.

They would have FAR MORE to lose then to gain by trying to pull such a stunt.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I’d say Ron Paul is more credible because he’s not one of the war mongers tied into the military industrial complex. Do you realize this administration has sent about 90 billion dollars in aid for the war in Ukraine, while people here are struggling to pay for food and the homeless crisis grows ever greater?

Please. 90 billion is nothing in the great scheme of things.

Projected Cost of U.S. Nuclear Arsenal Rises | Arms Control Association

The US will spend over 600 billion the coming 10 years just on their nuclear arsenal with which they can destroy the world a hundred times over.

Maybe complain about that and consider how much money they'ld save by having an arsenal that could destroy the world only 50 times. You might also ask yourself why you need more bombs then the amount needed to destroy the world only once.

How about advocating for some peace negotiations, rather than furthering the chance of nuclear world war?

It's kind of hard to negotiate for peace with a partner that does nothing but lie, cheat and who simply doesn't want peace or negotiate. They only make unreasonable demands.

The sad truth is that peace negotiation with the current kremlin regime is impossible.
They can't be trusted. Literally everything they say is a lie.

Just days ago, that sob Lavrov was at the G20 saying they want peace. 2 hours later, upto 100 rockets rained on Ukraine, taking out plenty of civilian infrastructure and leaving millions without heat, water and electricity.