Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Please elaborate?
Can we take Muhammad out of Islam?
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Muslims, Jews, & Christians - A look at the seperation.
- Thread starter Just_me_Mike
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Can we take Muhammad out of Islam?
Well, I did mention Allah not Islam. There is an old saying " prosperity creates complacency." The complacent easily forget their dependence upon God. I do not have a problem per se with those who call God " Allah " as it is only a word like God but like "God" could never do God justice.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Does that really answer my question?
so the God who made Muhammad into a prophet is your God?
does your theology have a room for the miracles experienced by Muhammad?
Excuse me for defending myself. Somehow though I believe you also might take offense to a total stranger who said " Friend , you are vastly ignorant..." Gee, I must be some kind of an anomaly to the human race.
It is easy to ask questions isn't it?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Its not that hard answering harmless questions. especially in a debate forum.
Actually I only believe in 1 God regardless of His name. But I cannot speak for your other questions as they are not a part of my theology.
kai
ragamuffin
so does that mean your god didn't reveal the quran to the prophet? and in fact mohamed is therefore not a prophet ?
or your god is Allah (whats in a name) but Muslims are mistaken somehow? or you don't know what god does or doesn't do?
No, I would find it laughable, much as I find your predictable inability to answer the question telling.
There are many things that should not be dismissed starting with the NT and the why is the pursuit of truth.
Different religions and different people may have varying perceptions on God but I don't believe in the notions of " his God or my God" because I believe in only 1 God for all. Do I believe that everyone who says he is a prophet is one? Apparently not or I would be a fencesitting quasireligionist. That having been said I don't feel a need however to disrespect what other people have chosen to believe and there is a lot of that that goes on in this forum. I don't find it pleasent nor clever nor useful. Frankly, sometimes I wonder what they get out of it. There is some truth in all religions isn't there?
kai
ragamuffin
the percetions are not just varying, there opposed!
If god didnt care about what peoples perceptions are of him there wouldnt be any revelations or prophets or messiahs --no?
kai
ragamuffin
If God doesn't care why the revelations? the Torah,the Bible, the Quran, the revelation? the laws?,the prophecy?
and i haven't made my mind up yet , to be honest i haven't found a perception that i can deal with.
God does care about us and our developement. Do you care about what some people think of you? Of course not and neither do I but that's because I'm sure neither of us are slaves to the opinions of others. Why should God be? I believe God's revelation is because of God's love and His desire for our growth on a spiritual level which is not fleeting like the mortal one. As far as perceptions of God goes ask me if I understand God. The answer is no. But I really believe that trying to understand God is like trying to pour the ocean into a glass. The glass is much too small and so are our heads. That should not be an impediment to belief because we can't understand the next door neighbor either.
kai
ragamuffin
If gods revelation is because of gods love , does it all depend then on which revelation you wish to believe in to take advantage of that love?
Maybe if you think god doesn't care about what we think of him then we should dismiss all revelation and just believe in one God? but if we believe in revelation (and you can take your pick) then you have to liken god to his revelation.
kai
ragamuffin
in answer to your questions, i couldn't really say because i haven't made a decision as to which of the "one Gods" revelations to ignore and which to believe is genuine. so i have no perception of god as such.
in answer to your questions, i couldn't really say because i haven't made a decision as to which of the "one Gods" revelations to ignore and which to believe is genuine. so i have no perception of god as such.
ignore peoples "modern understandings" of ancient scriptures...read it yourself while simultaneously studying ancient culture and language
ignore peoples "modern understandings" of ancient scriptures...read it yourself while simultaneously studying ancient culture and language
kai
ragamuffin
if only i had the time or indeed the inclination to learn ancient languages? but then if i choose to believe the Muslim revelation i wouldn't need ancient languages but Arabic or is that too modern for you elisheba?
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