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Muslims attack Christians in Pakistan; Christians arrested.
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David69
Angel Of The North
well, the boy had a run in with the vendor before. maybe the vendor was miffed because the boy wasnt touching his plumbs!! and in his rage by rejection or whatever the true reason ,he done what all the rats do, stured up the brown stinking stuff! Oh blastfemy, maybe hoping that the religious fanatics would murder the boy for not touching his plumbs. SOME humans are rats, arnt they? what had the boy done to desurve that? He viled my fruit!!! whats the world coming to eh?
Its all going to change when I rule the world... I give u my word
Its all going to change when I rule the world... I give u my word
Smoke
Done here.
Why not? Islam was introduced to what is now Pakistan 1300 years ago, and the majority of the population have been Muslims for hundreds of years. If the caste system has been perpetuated for hundreds of years by Muslims, what has that got to do with the Hindu religion? How many centuries do you have to practice something before you are responsible for practicing it?
Metempsychosis
Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
I just wanted to say that ,Islam alone is not guilty of propagating sectarian division.
Caste system is not sanctioned by Hinduism nor it has anything to with its philosophy....It is denigration of hindu religion.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
I agree, it's not by any means Islam alone, quite the contrary. As I said, all groups of people have a tendency to this behavior. It's part of our nature, whether you see that as evolutionary or otherwise. Some factors tend to contribute to it or aggravate it. That's what I'm trying to get at: what is it about Islam that tends to cause Muslims to engage in this sort of behavior? Why did Christians used to do this a lot a few centuries ago, but less so now? What's going on here?
Smoke
Done here.
Of course it's not. Humans love to divide up into "us" and "them." But if religion is powerless to teach people to behave better than that, what good is it? And if the adherents of a particular religion embrace that kind of behavior more often, and with more violence and fervor, than the adherents of other religions, what does that tell you about that religion?I just wanted to say that ,Islam alone is not guilty of propagating sectarian division.
Anytime people teach that theirs is the only true religion and everybody ought to belong to it, they're setting the stage for the dehumanization and oppression of others. The bloody histories of Islam, Christianity and Communism are not coincidental.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
And why, any time we try to ask these questions, do we have to wade through pages of defensiveness and obvious statements like, "It's not Islam alone." Duh. Now can we try to make some effort to figure out what's going on here?
kai
ragamuffin
I suggest the problem in Pakistan down to lost of factors. This may be of interest:
Pakistan suffers from a number of social, political, and economic problems. With a population roughly half that of the United States in an area slightly less than the size of two California's, Pakistan is experiencing unwanted growth. While projections indicate that the population growth rate of Pakistan may actually be decreasing, those same projections also predict that by the year 2050 Pakistan will have assumed its place as the third most populated nation in the world. A rapidly growing population, along with political tensions, both internal and external, and an economy trapped in a cycle of debt, all serve to prevent Pakistan from attaining the progress it needs to advance, and perhaps to survive.
61.2% of Pakistan illiterate
50.0% male illiteracy
75.6% female illiteracy
http://people.usd.edu/~clehmann/pop_prob/pakistan/problems.htm
Metempsychosis
Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
Dogmatism in abrahamic religion probably reflect the conditions in which they were born (esp.Christianity and Islam).I think,it is upto the people to pick out good things that the religion has to offer.
I am not a great fan of those abrahamic religions either.They caused quite a lot of harm to pagans throughout the history.
IMHO,their community does not allow them to question/criticize their religion.This is a part of problem.
Many of wealthy christian societies have reformed ,I don't see that happening with Islam,esp..when there are wars against some of the Islamic countries.
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Gharib
I want Khilafah back
AxisMundi
E Pluribus Unum!!!
Just another day in the religious neighborhood as two religions who both claim to be "The Truth" and "Religions of Peace" go after each other in a see-saw battle that has been raging for decades.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
So if you weren't there you don't believe the news reports? Isn't that a bit limiting? Who won the gold medal in olympic ice hockey?
Were you there?
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
exactly, islam is one nation (one country) none of those countries represents islam, they have man made laws into their justice system.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
So, in other words, Islam, as a national identity, is a figment of the imagination.
.lava
Veteran Member
no, it means;
1-if one wants to learn Sharia, he needs not to know what's happening in Muslim nations but he needs to read Qur'an
2-People have left Qur'an
3-One does not need Sharia to be applied to society correctly to be a better man. he can always learn and follow rules as an individual. everyone is responsible of his own actions even though we live in societies together
4- We are in end times and every single thing Mohammad SAW has said about end times is actually happening 1 by 1, no Muslim would be surprised
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yes, .lava, I know this tap dance well enough. I would however love to see you write up point #4, in the ISLAM Dir, in a point by point form. That would be very interesting reading. If you have the inclination, that is.
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
There is no doubt that religious minorities are persecuted in Pakistan. The fact is that Pakistan is almost a failed state. The government of Pakistan can't even control all of it's land with in it's borders. I do not believe that all the problems of Pakistan can be placed on the shoulders of Islam. It also should be noted that Pakistan has fanned the flames of extremism and now it's biting them in the butt.
Autodidact
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If so, it's the Muslims that live there that have made them. Every country I named is more than 90% Muslim.
I see, so actual Muslims, and actual Muslim countries, don't represent Islam. You, for example, don't represent Islam.
Let's just, for convenience, call these people "so-called Muslims" then. Does that work for you?
gnomon
Well-Known Member
An incredible display of human ignorance.
That the article even mentions someone using the phrase for 'untouchable', which as far as I know is not a dominant theme among the majority of Muslim or Christian believers, tells me that there are probably distinct ethnic or familial groups involved in this small conflict.
Divisions in Pakistan run far deeper than religious ideologies. Just as they do everywhere else.