Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It applies to government prisons as well.
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Mississippi Governor Proclaims Confederate Heritage Month
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Too late. Slavery is still legal.
That is not really an alternative explanation as much as it is an additional explanation. The political motive (the votes) does not contradict the financial motive, the go together like peanut butter and chocolate.
Not that I agree with the idea that it is slavery, calling it that diminishes the horror that is slavery. But I do believe there is a powerful profit motive involved here, and keeping people locked up so you can make more money is evil.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am very sure that you are wrong. And you know it. If you really believed in yourself you would support your claims. When you make a claim and run away when it comes to supporting it that is the same as if you admitted that you were wrong.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
What is that supposed to mean as a reply to my post?
How much profit does a government
owned & run prison make from its
working inmate populatoin?
He isn't 'a leftist'.
Worth considering you're carrying a hammer and seeing everything as a nail, if we're swapping proverbs.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I already posted a link. Too bad you didn't see it.
If you claim that private prisons steer public
policy to increase incarceration, where's your
evidence?
I know of isolated cases, but you're claiming
a nationwide conspiracy. You're in effect claiming
that where there's a motive there's a crime, even
if you've not demonstrated the crime.
If the mere existence of profit, ie, financial gain,
is proof of undue influence / a conspiracy that
affects the entire justice system, then this
rationale has broader applications. Any group
who'd benefit from prisons would be causing
mass incarceration, eg, prison guard unions,
municipalities with prisons. This would apply
to both government and private prisons.
We Never Know
No Slack
Its part of American history.Are you ******* kidding me?!
Reeves Proclaims Confederate Heritage Month in Mississippi
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves declared April 2024 as Confederate Heritage Month in Mississippi, keeping alive a tradition that began in 1993.www.mississippifreepress.org
It shaped America.
I agree with his statement...
"“Whereas, as we honor all who lost their lives in this war, it is important for all Americans to reflect upon our nation’s past, to gain insight from our mistakes and successes, and to come to a full understanding that the lessons learned yesterday and today will carry us through tomorrow if we carefully and earnestly strive to understand and appreciate our heritage and our opportunities which lie before us"
Have a post#?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Mississippi Governor Proclaims Confederate Heritage Month
Bolded to educate that slavery is still legal in this country. To phrase it as "still legal" risks the inference of forced labor as punishment for a crime being the same as slavery in antebellum slave states, ie, buying & selling humans. Do you agree there are significant differences...
www.religiousforums.com
We Never Know
No Slack
$11 billion vs $80 billion.Put 1+1 together.
The United States has the world’s largest private prison population – The Sentencing Project
The United States has the world’s largest private prison population.www.sentencingproject.org
US prison workers produce $11bn worth of goods and services a year for pittance
New report by American Civil Liberties Union says incarcerated laborers are either poorly compensated or not at allwww.theguardian.com
Equals....
"Federal and state governments spend $80 billion annually to operate prisons and jails"
The Economic Burden of Incarceration in the U.S (2016)
"This study estimates the annual economic burden of incarceration in the United States. While prior research has estimated the cost of crime, no study has calculated the cost of incarceration. The $80 billion spent annually on corrections is frequently cited as the cost of incarceration, but...
I searched both articles for "profit".Put 1+1 together.
The United States has the world’s largest private prison population – The Sentencing Project
The United States has the world’s largest private prison population.
US prison workers produce $11bn worth of goods and services a year for pittance
New report by American Civil Liberties Union says incarcerated laborers are either poorly compensated or not at all
Equals....
In neither was there any quantitative claim
about how much profit is made. So your
links don't answer the question I posed.
It would be best to read your own links
to verify that the info you expect to be
there actually is.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not my problem if your in denial.
I posed a question.
You provided links that don't answer it.
So I'm denying nothing...since you
didn't provide anything.
You claimed that government prisons
made profit. You've no evidence of
it....only faith in your belief.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sounds about right for government.$11 billion vs $80 billion.
"Federal and state governments spend $80 billion annually to operate prisons and jails"
The Economic Burden of Incarceration in the U.S (2016)
"This study estimates the annual economic burden of incarceration in the United States. While prior research has estimated the cost of crime, no study has calculated the cost of incarceration. The $80 billion spent annually on corrections is frequently cited as the cost of incarceration, but...nicic.gov
All those richly compensated contractors turn into all those wonderful special interest payoffs, which in turn provides more stable power and entrenchment for politicians.
80 billion well spent as far as they are concerned. Very profitable for the profiteers.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Whatever. Google is your friend.
I don't do your homework for you.
If you can't answer a question, just say
so, instead of presenting a non-answer
posing as an answer.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Exactly as it says. It applies today as much as in the past.
Technically I was agreeing with your assessment of those who don't want the 13th amendment altered through a convention to eliminate slavery altogether.
Slavery still is still a wanted and desired commodity.