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Las Vegas Shooting

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So you say.
Sure do.
No I didn't. In fact, the opposite. I assumed you'd be opposed to owning nukes and napalm and used it to highlight that people shouldn't be able to own things that cause massive amounts of death for no real purpose.
Let's examine your post....
"I believe that is as unethical and senseless an argument as saying people should be
able to legally have napalm or a nuke, so long as you don't do anything funny with it."

You're equating what I said with napalm & nuclear weapons.
This is utterly ridiculous. I wonder what response your equation would
get from survivors of the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs?
It's a terrible thing to kill &/or injure 500+ people, but nuclear weapons
can kill many tens of thousands with lasting radiation dangers.

Gun control policy discussions cannot be based upon nuclear weapon
limitations. There are unfathomably vast differences both in effect & law.
Yet I'm the one who is either insane, senseless or unethical!
Barsh flimshaw!
Yet clearly you do, as there is a line between nukes and napalm which is not okay and insensibly large amounts of guns regularly used in massive violence. I'm asking where that line is.
I didn't see you ask me.
Which post was it?
The Canuckistanian penguin did though, & I responded.
Was it unsatisfactory?
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
You're equating what I said with napalm & nuclear weapons.
I already explained what my intentions were, and don't need you to attempt to explain it back to me. So I'll reply again:
No I didn't. In fact, the opposite. I assumed you'd be opposed to owning nukes and napalm and used it to highlight that people shouldn't be able to own things that cause massive amounts of death for no real purpose.

I wonder what response your equation would
get from survivors of the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs
They'd probably tell you they've long since banned guns and that the US is scary in their gun violence statistics, but whatever.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I already explained what my intentions were, and don't need you to attempt to explain it back to me. So I'll reply again:
No I didn't. In fact, the opposite. I assumed you'd be opposed to owning nukes and napalm and used it to highlight that people shouldn't be able to own things that cause massive amounts of death for no real purpose.
Your intentions are sure at odds with what you actually posted.
Again...
"I believe that is as unethical and senseless an argument as saying people should be
able to legally have napalm or a nuke, so long as you don't do anything funny with it."

You equated what I support with having but restraining from using napalm & nuclear weapons.
To say that I would oppose owning napalm & nukes does not defeat this horrible & false equation.

You started off calling us either "unethical" or "insane".
And trying to make that better, you end up making it worse.

I think I'm done beating this dead horse.
 
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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Your intentions sure at odds with what you actually posted.
Again...
"I believe that is as unethical and senseless an argument as saying people should be
able to legally have napalm or a nuke, so long as you don't do anything funny with it."
You equated what I support with having but restraining from using napalm & nuclear weapons.
To say that I would oppose owning napalm & nukes does not defeat this horrible & false equation.

You started off calling use either "unethical" or "insane".
And trying to make that better, you end up making it worse.
For shame....for shame....
The use is still unethical or insane to me. That hasn't changed.
However, I never accused you of being for private ownership of nukes or napalm, instead used an example to highlight the futility of using a type of argument which applies to both. Looks like you're just reaching for something to pick at.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
But your barb wask directed at those of us who support
ownership rights, not using the weapons as he did.
You've not backed down from that accusation.
What I actually said was
Clearly untrue given recent events. Where everything he had there was legal, legally obtained and legally modified. Nobody needs that kind of firepower, and if you think you deserve it, then doubly you shouldn't have it
Once again, I'm telling you as an ethical, sane person, that if someone believes they should be able to legally have what that man had, then they're not an ethical or sane person.
If it ruffles some fathers that I think that about them well...*shrug.* I'm not going to apologize for it.
I think the same thing about people who believe gay people deserve to be tortured forever, and I'm friends with some of those people.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If it ruffles some fathers that I think that about them well...*shrug.* I'm not going to apologize for it.
I think the same thing about people who believe gay people deserve to be tortured forever, and I'm friends with some of those people.
I responded to a different post.
A less charitable poster might accuse you of being either insane
or unethical for misdirected insults & desperate backpedalling.
Fortunately, I'm just oozing magnanimity.....well, oozing something.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I responded to a different post.
A less charitable poster might accuse you of being either insane
or unethical for misdirected insults & desperate backpedalling.
Fortunately, I'm just oozing magnanimity.....well, oozing something.
Oozing something indeed.
Not backpeddling, just not taking your bait.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You kind of did when you responded.
Baiting?
I'm not looking to rile her.
I object to posts which express unwarranted personal hostility, & then
ramp it up with ridiculous equivalence of rifles & nuclear weapons.

This is becoming too 3rd person to comport with RF rules.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I've never known bait to work in such a way that a response was not necessary.

What kind of supernatural bait is that?
Baiting isn't just getting someone to respond. It can also be getting someone to respond in the way you want them to to follow up with a specific retort. Less baiting in the memetic way, more in the debate way, or leading a witness.
I wasn't giving him what he wanted.
 

Mister Silver

Faith's Nightmare
Baiting isn't just getting someone to respond. It can also be getting someone to respond in the way you want them to to follow up with a specific retort. Less baiting in the memetic way, more in the debate way, or leading a witness.
I wasn't giving him what he wanted.

Still confused, but if it works for you.
 
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