Kurt Gödel and Revolution in Mathematics

[questfortruth]

Gödel's work is right, but useless.

Gödel's incompleteness theorems say that there are
statements that are true but cannot be proven.
For example, the Riemann Hypothesis is -probably-
unprovable. However, the claim "Riemann Hypothesis
is true" might be true. Therefore, Gödel's result
should be rewritten: "there are statements that might be true,
but -probably- cannot be proven true." So, Gödel's result is nothing new,
nothing revolutionary.

 

[Revoltingest]

Therefore, Gödel's result
should be rewritten: "there are statements that might be true,
but -probably- cannot be proven true." So, Gödel's result is nothing new....

You should inform all the mathematicians
that he & they are wrong.
With your proof included, of course.

 

[questfortruth]

You should inform all the mathematicians
that he & they are wrong.
With your proof included, of course.

And why joking then? Why irony?

 

[Revoltingest]

And why joking then? Why irony?

Who says I'm joking.

 

[questfortruth]

Who says I'm joking.

Are you my friend or enemy?

 

[Revoltingest]

Are you my friend or enemy?

Neither.
Just a poster here.
If you informed them of their error,
they'd explain why it's not in error.

 

[questfortruth]

Neither.

There is no third god, hence, either friend or enemy.

 

[questfortruth]

If you informed them of their error,
they'd explain why it's not in error.

I have no contact with elites.

Gödel's work is right, but useless.

 

[Stevicus]

I used to suffer from math anxiety.

 

[Audie]

I used to suffer from math anxiety.

Me too.
Problem with numbers is they are
always too big or too small.

 

[Revoltingest]

Me too.
Problem with numbers is they are
always too big or too small.

You can never be too rich or too short.

(Contrary to my dissing short folk, I do
find them superior in a technological
society. They're more efficient.)

 

[icehorse]

Gödel's work is right, but useless.

Gödel's incompleteness theorems say that there are
statements that are true but cannot be proven.
For example, the Riemann Hypothesis is -probably-
unprovable. However, the claim "Riemann Hypothesis
is true" might be true. Therefore, Gödel's result
should be rewritten: "there are statements that might be true,
but -probably- cannot be proven true." So, Gödel's result is nothing new,
nothing revolutionary.

If you're TRULY interested in these ideas, I highly recommend a book called "I am a Strange Loop". The book spends a lot of time explaining the incompleteness theorems and just how useful they are

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

If you're TRULY interested in these ideas, I highly recommend a book called "I am a Strange Loop". The book spends a lot of time explaining the incompleteness theorems and just how useful they are

Quite right. Hofstadter is really something of a genius. I've read all his work, though I confess have to struggle harder to read it than he did to write it.

 

[icehorse]

Quite right. Hofstadter is really something of a genius. I've read all his work, though I confess have to struggle harder to read it than he did to write it.

I've tried several times to make my way through G.E.B. I've never read it all. But I found I could keep up with Strange Loop, and it was awesome. There are ideas in that book that have permanently changed how I view the world.

 

[questfortruth]

There are ideas in that book that have permanently changed how I view the world.

But you "spiritual anti-theist". This is the result of the change, caused by the book?

 

[Twilight Hue]

You should inform all the mathematicians
that he & they are wrong.
With your proof included, of course.

It's the only way.

 

[questfortruth]

It's the only way.

There is Church Vs. State separation, and there is Church Vs. Scientific Community separation.
Does it mean that my enemies are both?

 

[Twilight Hue]

There is Church Vs. State separation, and there is Church Vs. Scientific Community separation.
Does it mean that my enemies are both?

If you can convince them, your a certified genius!

 

[questfortruth]

There is Church Vs. State separation, and there is Church Vs. Scientific Community separation.
Does it mean that my enemies are both?

I recalled: love your enemies. If you love an enemy, he is your friend. World is full of my blessed friends.

 

[questfortruth]

If you can convince them, your a certified genius!

everybody has a potential.