Jeremiah Ames
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The title to this thread is my proposition.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it:
Prove it.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it:
Prove it.
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Killing IS justified
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Jeremiah Ames
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Thank you.
I’m sorry that you had to spend so much effort with that assignment.
I will make my next one easier.
I am a god therefore is is morally correct that i am justified in killing anyone and everyone because i am a god.
Actually doesn't make sense to me but it is essentially the reason i was given for the godly atrocities of the bible.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Shad
Veteran Member
It wasn't a hard question to answer nor explain.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
Lol.
Actually, that’s not really a proof.
But it does make me smile.
My thoughts:
You state that it doesn’t make sense to you, so from that I conclude that you are a rational thinking person.
Then you state that you were given this insane concept of God, evidently from other people somewhere. (Probably not on RF)
I conclude from that statement, that you were listening to someone who is NOT rational and thinking.
imo
Shad
Veteran Member
I am attacked but can not escape my attacker nor is external aid present.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
If you would actually provide proof, it may be a bit more challenging.
That simple sentence would not suffice in a courtroom.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Killing IS justified
In many if not all circumstances, deliberate intentional killing is not justified.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
Indeed, a lot is missing from that answer of his.
Let’s examine the self defense thing.
Judge: Why did you kill Joe?
Jim: It was self defense. He was going to kill me.
Judge: How do you know that?
Jim: Because he was pointing a gun at me.
Judge: Was it loaded?
Jim: Why is that relevant?
Etc etc.
Shad
Veteran Member
Proof is contained in the answer. You just do not accept it.
That is a scenario and meeting a burden of evidence in a court system not merely a justification.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
How were you attacked?
'Attacked' can mean that some drunk took a swing at you.
Attacked can mean that somebody waved a bit of glass at you and said they would hurt you.
No.......... you need to be in truly deadly danger to intentionally kill anybody.
I was debating a christian.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
Well, that explains it.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yep.
In a recent thread about guns a recording of a 911 call was recorded where several slow gunshots could be heard before the caller reported that an intruder was dead. That's murder, because (in all probability) the intruder was disabled after the first shot.
Some gun-nuts just can't wait to shoot somebody and be a 'hero'.
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
He just doesn’t get it. And nothing anyone can say will change that.
Now that is funny
Jeremiah Ames
Well-Known Member
I try.
Shad
Veteran Member
Assault with no provocation from me. IE someone trying to murder me, someone using violence against me be it a weapon or body, robbery, and kidnapping. At least that is what I can think of at the moment.
That is a threat not an attack.
I am not a mind reader so I am not obligated to figure out the intent of the person assaulting me nor am I going to pause for consideration of whether this is a beating or attempting to kill me.
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