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Jesus is not god

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Uhhh..... can you clear this up? I have no idea what you're trying to say, no offense. I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
1. This is in the pages of this dialogue
And where on the answering
I wishtorefer
2. Yes Islam from Christianity
But he did not convey a scientific secretariat
3. example--Jesus the word of God
4. the same move Qur'an
But Muslims refused to recognize this
5. the spirit of the Christ of God's spirit
And Muslims are looking for explanations
They say Wonderland
6. Christ was supported by the Holy Spirit
And Muslims seeking the interpretation of the Holy Spirit
7. the Qur'an denies that Christ is his apparent father
8. for this
The reason I tell you honestly full
9. If you are able to prove that his father Christ, Islam erases before Christianity
10. Christianity remains steadfast and that another subject
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
You didn't answer how a person can consist of words..

If that 'person' happens to be God, they can consist of whatever you like ;)

..more seriously, it's about the language/style of the gospel of John .. it has been translated from ancient greek and has a gnostic/cultural/mystical flavour..

..then people come along and take any verse they like and interpret it in a literal, modern, non-idiomatic way, and hey presto .. total confusion!

Naturally, satan is happy with that .. he only wishes to divert/confuse mankind
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
If that 'person' happens to be God, they can consist of whatever you like ;)

..more seriously, it's about the language/style of the gospel of John .. it has been translated from ancient greek and has a gnostic/cultural/mystical flavour..

..then people come along and take any verse they like and interpret it in a literal, modern, non-idiomatic way, and hey presto .. total confusion!

Naturally, satan is happy with that .. he only wishes to divert/confuse mankind
My friend-.-
1. you have to understand my words-.-
2. If the proof that Christ has the father of human beings
3. the logical conclusion is-
El-Islamfallsalsoautomatically-.-
J-friendtells us thatChristhas thefather ofhuman beings
A.you areMuslim,you acceptinthis???
4. therefore, I invite you to leave the Gospel
Is it a typeface or true
Because this is a separate topic
5. If I say that Christ has the father of human beings
6. will the Qur'an also incorrectly
7. the Qur'an says that Jesus is not the father of human beings
8. leave you thinking with type-a
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.

JESUS IS NOT GOD .
Jesus is God come as a Man in the flesh. God in heaven in greater than a Man in the flesh.
God did not pretend to come as a Man; He really did come as a Man.
 

Call_of_the_Wild

Well-Known Member
Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

On the Christian view, Jesus BECAME human. So God BECAME human, which is entirely within his power and not contrary to traditional monotheistic theology.


Acts 2:22 "Men of Israel listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you know."

Just like it was stated above, Jesus BECAME human, just like Phil 2:5-9 indicates...so he was a man. No problems there.
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
Jesus is God come as a Man in the flesh. God in heaven in greater than a Man in the flesh..

I think you're just having 'a laugh' ..
You must know you're talking nonsense ..

Jesus = God (there is no difference)
so .. God = man in the flesh

Now you say:
God > man in the flesh

They can't both be right .. which is it?
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
1. This is in the pages of this dialogue
And where on the answering
I wishtorefer
2. Yes Islam from Christianity
But he did not convey a scientific secretariat
3. example--Jesus the word of God
4. the same move Qur'an
But Muslims refused to recognize this
5. the spirit of the Christ of God's spirit
And Muslims are looking for explanations
They say Wonderland
6. Christ was supported by the Holy Spirit
And Muslims seeking the interpretation of the Holy Spirit
7. the Qur'an denies that Christ is his apparent father
8. for this
The reason I tell you honestly full
9. If you are able to prove that his father Christ, Islam erases before Christianity
10. Christianity remains steadfast and that another subject
Are you trying to write in poetry? What's with the numbers?

"If you are able to prove that his father Christ, Islam erases before Christianity"
I have no clue what this means for example. Prove that his father Christ what? what is "his father christ"? Are you referring to God? And islam erases? What does that mean? And how does it erase before as opposed to after and what does that even mean? What you're writing isn't clear whatsoever.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
I think you're just having 'a laugh' ..
You must know you're talking nonsense ..

Jesus = God (there is no difference)
so .. God = man in the flesh

Now you say:
God > man in the flesh

They can't both be right .. which is it?
I am speaking the Truth.

Do you want to have the Holy Spirit? Do you want to be the temple of the Living God?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Are you trying to write in poetry? What's with the numbers?

"If you are able to prove that his father Christ, Islam erases before Christianity"
I have no clue what this means for example. Prove that his father Christ what? what is "his father christ"? Are you referring to God? And islam erases? What does that mean? And how does it erase before as opposed to after and what does that even mean? What you're writing isn't clear whatsoever.
I apologizeto you
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Yes-.
If you managed to prove to fathers of Christ Of human beings
The result will be The fall of Islam before Christianity
Because Islam says-
1. Christ is the word of God delivered by Mary
2-Islam says that Christ by the spirit of God
3-Islam says that God supported by the Holy Spirit
Therefore we note different interpretation to these verses from the Qur'an
Islam believes that Christ fathers is not from human beings
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I think you're just having 'a laugh' ..
You must know you're talking nonsense ..

Jesus = God (there is no difference)
so .. God = man in the flesh

Now you say:
God > man in the flesh

They can't both be right .. which is it?
Do you deny the Quran?!?
Christ is the word of God delivered by Mary
Accordingly, the floor becomes a valid
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
right in what ?

and i haven't tryed to prove anything, so how do you know i cant?

your making no sense buddy:)

Mainliner said "when i said ...." Jesus isn't god i never thought he was"
to me its just obvious.....i don't read many scriptures ( if any )
but what i have read just seemed to fall into place and make sense ( in my mind)...... I like to read between the lines if you haven't noticed lol"


I believe if you can't prove it then you are not right about it. I believe many here have tried before unsuccessfully, so odds are agaisnt you doing any better.

I believe it is easy to lose track of what one has said previously so I hope this makes more sense to you.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
God Almighty does not call Himself Father! God Almighty did not write the Bible .. various people wrote the Bible in their own languages ..

.. I'm not saying that if God HAD written the Bible, that He wouldn't call Himself 'Father' .. because it doesn't make any sense to communicate in a language which we do not understand.

Words change their meanings over time.. I'm sure you realise that..

Is it 'God the Father' and 'Jesus the Son' in Hebrew, or Greek, I wonder :)
..and I can assure you that it doesn't mean what you think it means! Don't listen to the like's of Constantine .. he was a clever politician, but not particulrly pious.

I believe that Jesus is God in the flesh so it is God in Jesus calling God outside of Jesus, Father.

I don't beleive in going by what men think but by what God says.

I have no idea of what Constantine said but I do know what Jesus said.
 

mainliner

no one can de-borg my fact's ...NO-ONE!!
Who was Jesus talking about FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME LOL:)

John 14:28
The Father is greater than I
 

mainliner

no one can de-borg my fact's ...NO-ONE!!
Jesus compares himself to the father many many times in the sciptures.......he is not god
 

mainliner

no one can de-borg my fact's ...NO-ONE!!
Jesus cryed out on the cross " god why have you forsaken me"

who was he talking about AGAIN!!...... Jesus is NOT god.
 

moorea944

Well-Known Member
On the Christian view, Jesus BECAME human. So God BECAME human, which is entirely within his power and not contrary to traditional monotheistic theology.




Just like it was stated above, Jesus BECAME human, just like Phil 2:5-9 indicates...so he was a man. No problems there.
I think your suggesting Jesus pre-existed? Then he changed into a man? I dont see a that at all. Jesus was born. LIke us. Except God was his Father. David was also his father through Mary. Jesus had to be like us. He was born the son of God.

God also told Moses that someday after him He would "rise up" a prophet, not descend.
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
..I don't beleive in going by what men think but by what God says.

Hmm .. that's what 'terrorists' might claim..

It's important to know what Almighty God said and what He didn't !
Don't you think that I'm concerned with finding the truth .. believing the truth?

Taking verses from the Bible (or the Qur'an, for that matter), and repeating them 'parrot-fashion' without proper knowledge hasn't got much to do with what 'God says' ..
 
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