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[ Jesus in not God with a logicl proof ]

Discussion in 'Quranic Debates' started by mr.Omar, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. Ouroboros

    Ouroboros Coincidentia oppositorum
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    No, not really. I haven't met a god in real life yet, so I can't really say.

    I guess they could. Some humans worship some other human, like a king or whatever, so if the supernatural world contains millions of gods, spreading and multiplying like humans, then perhaps they have a king-god that they all worship.

    You mean your logic is based on the suppositions that gods can't worship gods? Well, I'm not sure about that premise. You perhaps need to back it up more.
     
  2. Saint Frankenstein

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    This thread is 6 years old. He's not going to reply.
     
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  3. Ouroboros

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    Wooops. Didn't see that. I hate when that happens.

    In another forum they have a system (automated even I think) that when a thread is over a certain age, it will be locked down. I will find the suggestion box thread and post that idea for this forum too. It would remove mistakes like these.
     
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  4. Saint Frankenstein

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    That would be a great idea! :)
     
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    I am interested to know your elaboration though.
     
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    ~;> agree
    as far as what we've notice that someone is trying hard to debate
    about
    a system of biblical interpretation taught by man
    or
    trying to debate his own opinion
    thats why
    that someone is forcing you to quote a scripture from Qur'an
    the same thing those triune god worshippers do
    and
    remember always
    that those triune god worshippers are not even christians
    and their belief were also different from the catholics and protestants
    and unto any religious belief
    coz they were the remaining worshippers of the old babylon

    as what we've said before
    that someone is forcing you to quote a scripture from Qur'an
    where it seems that someone don't care for what the Qur'an says
    as his argument is non-existent
    from what the scripture says


    :ty:




    godbless
    unto all always
     
  7. whirlingmerc

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    Jesus is like God's ideal image of himself who is also a person
    so its more like different parts of the Trinity loving and valuing eachotehr
    which by the way makes love, community and communication first class attributes of God in a Trinitarian view

    I see no problem with it

    But it appears Jesus is God from many parts of the Old Testament
    Zechariah: A Dreamscape Pointing to a Man Called Branch
     
  8. Faithofchristian

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    Is Jesus God, sure Jesus is God.

    Jesus is God Himself in the flesh body of Jesus.
    Look back the Indians in America, would take the deer skins and conceal themselves inside, so the deers would think they are one of them. Take the Buffalo skins, Indians would take the Buffalo skins to conceal themselves inside, So the Buffalo's would see them as one of them.

    Take the skin of a sheep or goat. People would take that skin of the sheep or goat and put it on to conceal themselves inside. So the sheep or goat would see them as one of them.

    So in like manner God made himself a body of flesh to conceal himself inside, so that God could become one of us. In the body of Jesus.
     
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    Since Allah or Mr God doesn't have a meat suit for himself , he needs to impregnate virgins, so he can jump into the meat and do wacky things like getting nailed to a piece of wood with his testicles hanging below.
     
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    Some people have absolutely zero class. Others are embarrassingly juvenile. Some are actually both.
     
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    Can I ask, have you read the Bible for yourself? Or have you just believed what others said about the Bible?

    Kind Regards
     
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    In the thread above it states
    ( Jesus is not God with logical proof)

    What logical proof do you have.
     
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    I was replying to his specific comment. Not the topic of the thread.
     
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    Muhammad not messenger with logical proof.

    Jesus spoke about false prophets shall rise, and then Jesus said speaking about false prophets, said if they say he is in the desert go not forth. Jesus spoke these words 600 yrs before muhammad was born. Matthew 24:24-26.

    It has come down in the Muslims q'uran that Muhammad lived in a cave in the Arabian Desert. Go Figure. False prophet.
     
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    Jesus is not like Noah and Solomon.
    God is Jesus in human body Jesus.

    God made souls and encased them in human bodys.
    God made human body and encased Himself in human body Jesus.
     
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    Under what circumstances did Jesus refer to himself in the third person as opposed to the circumstances Jesus referred to himself in first person?
     
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    If a human has a baby, that baby is a human. If a dog has a baby, that baby is a dog. If a cat has a baby, that baby is a cat. If God has a son, that son is a God. Jesus is called the Son of God so he must be a God. The only logical way to see it.
     
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    This only works if god is bound by the logic you impose upon him.

    Most theists I know and have talked to allude to the idea that god is not bound by logic.
    For if god was bound by logic, god could not, in fact, be god.
     
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    God is perfect logic. Man is limited is his ability to understand this logic. It is not God who has limits but man who has limits. One of these limits is the ability to understand God.
     
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    Kinda reminds me of what the New Testaments says:

    "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord." 1 Corinthians 1:27-31
     
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