Jesus' Four Failed Prophecies About Him Returning In The Lifetimes Of His Apostles

[Yahcubs777]

No, he didn't. He brought curse after curse upon them. Why doesn't he do that today? Why isn't there some modern day prophet up on a hilltop named Bevis the Baptist screaming, "Woe unto you, people of America--sinners and hypocrites! Repent or the Lord will visit fire and brimstone on you yet 30 days from now. The clock is ticking."

Here is the reason. Because they crucified HIM. Let me explain.

Everything GOD does is on the seat of justice.

When the sons of jacob sold Joseph to Egypt as a slave, the children of the sons of jacob were slaves 400 years before Moses was sent to deliver them out of salvery.
Their children being slaves was justice for what they did to a sent one, Joseph. So it was for 400 years that GOD did not send them a deliverer as justice for what they did to Joseph.

When a world or a people do harm to HIS Prophets,. or to HIS Sent ones, there must be a price to pay. HE isnt sending them to die. HE is sending them to do a good work in the lives of the children of the kingdom.

So because of the fact that they crucified The Truthful One, Jesus His Pre-Eminence, GOD has not sent any Prophet, or Prophetess, or any person to the Church as Justice. Just as the healing that Jesus His Pre-Eminence did in the earth, is something that cannot happen again in this kind of an earth. Notice after HE resurrected HIMSELF, he didn't heal another person before HE ascended?
GOD does not do things for show. GOD is not seeking our praise, or worship. The one who is seeking that is lucifer.

So to cut it short; the reason why no Prophet has come in that time, is justice for what they did to Jesus His Pre-Eminence. And the healing HE did cannot be done ever again in this terrestrial earth because HE did it, and yet they still crucified HIM. Therefore, it is unjust for that kind of healing to ever happen again. And HE revealed this by the mouth of HIS Prophets, who Prophesied that for three days there will be darkness. That was pointing to a time of Apopstasy - a time when people will claim they hear from GOD and lead the people to destruction. That is also what the 3 denials of Peter was pointing to as well.

That three days, is a time when the Word of GOD is not in the earth. Because the Word of GOD is the light of the earth. And its three days in Heavens system of counting which is 3000 years in this earth. For 1000 years is as 1 day in heaven. Its a different system of counting altogether. A week is 10 days not 7. A celestial hour is 100 years in this earth. So you don't look at our solar system to know the counting. Just as It was written that the day they eat of the fruit, they will die. And each of them, Father Adam and Mother Eve lived 930 years in this earth after the fall. Which is under 1000 years 1 day.

So Revelation 11:3-11 reveals to us what happened to the word, personified by two witnesses: Moses and Elijah who are the law and the Prophets personified. And how they lay dead on the streets spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where our Lord was also crucified. But wait, Jesus His Pre-Eminence was crucified on calvary. This passage was pointing to that time of apostasy when the testimonies of the law and the Prophets lay in a dead state (like we have scrolls called the dead sea scrolls). So the Word of GOD, even the bible, is not in its best state. And thats because of a few factors.

1. The people that put the bible together were not called or led, or instructed to do so. And they included and discluded whatever they wanted.
2. The many mistranslations from one language to another that lost the Spirit in the Word spoken by the Prophets.
3. The many mistransmisions from the Prophets to the scribes that were writing what the Prophets were saying. Like at times when you read the bible, there is a narrator who will give his interpretation of what you just read and its done alot of harm.
4. The things that were added or taken away to lead the children of the kingdom astray.

Thus, it is the Son of Man, Elijah, the 7th Angel of the 7th Church Age, that has the perfect renditions of the teachings of the 6 Angels that came before him: Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Apostle Peter, and his own message which will for run and prepare the bride to be received without spots, blemishes or wrinkles. And he shall judge babylon, and the rulers of this world, and all the children of the kingdom that seeked, and found, will be led by him. And that place where they will be was called Zion.

 

[Yahcubs777]

That's faith. The Bible isn't a reliable historic authority. Ask any non-Christian Bible scholar.

My Faith, which is not what you think, has nothing to do with the Logos of GOD. The Logos of GOD is HIS unalterable blueprint of the plan of salvation. My faith cannot affect that whatsoever.

Faith was spoken as a parable, that manifested the desires of the false. What i mean is they ran with faith and claimed it is everything, and even claimed it is GOD who gives it to you, so those who don't have it too bad you were not chosen... LIES. They claimed that by faith you can claim your car, your house, your job, whatsoever you want in this world, ask and it shall be given. Nonsense.

Faith is Revelations. Faith is Revelations from GOD which was called the hidden Manna, the nucleus of the message. For example, to someone that lacks Revelations, they cannot know anything about heaven.For them, its just believe in it. But a man with Revelations revealed things about Heaven, an insiders report into the happenings in the celestial. And an example of this is John the beloved, who wrote: The book of Revelation..

So its not just a measure of belief, its knowledge of GOD, and of HIS Logos.

An example of a Revelation is hidden message in why Moses parted the red sea, what was that pointing to? Why didn't the Sons of Jacob who travelled from Cana'an to Egypt, why didn't they need to also part the red sea to get there? Why couldn't they push down the walls of Jericho? But just simply walking around it was enough? Why did Noah,who is the 2nd Angel of the 2nd Church age, not save anybody else except his family. What did Enoch do, to transfigure in life? The Answers to these questions are Revelations, hidden in the events that are not plain to see, nor read. That is what a Revelation is.

 

[Brian2]

Well, the real problem is that too many dodgy Christians are writing too many dodgy books just to make a fast buck. Would you agree with that?

I would say there is too much dodgy stuff from Christians and from anti Chrisitians.

 

[Trailblazer]

And it is also he that will reveal that new name.

I believe it has already been revealed, as the Son of Man has already come.

 

[Trailblazer]

Good. I'm glad somebody finally stepped forward and took the initiative to let us know.

 

[Yahcubs777]

I believe it has already been revealed, as the Son of Man has already come.

If the son of man had already come, the knowledge of Heaven would have covered the earth, babylon would be brought down, and Shiloh would have begun. But i will listen if you care to share.

 

[Trailblazer]

Clouds of Heaven is not speaking of literal clouds, but its pointing to that person who has the windows of Heaven opened unto him.

Interesting, I do not believe clouds refer to literal clouds either....
I believe that clouds as they are related to the coming of the Son of Man, refer to veils.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Matthew 24:30-31 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

To explain in brief, I believe that ‘Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven’ means that the return of the Christ Spirit promised in the Bible will be made manifest from the heaven of the will of God, and will appear in the form of a human being. The term “heaven” means loftiness and exaltation. Although Jesus was delivered from the womb of His mother, in reality He descended from the heaven of the will of God. Though dwelling on this earth, His true habitation was the realms above. While walking among mortals on earth, Jesus soared in the heaven of the divine presence.

The term “clouds” as used in the Bible means those things that cloud our judgment and prevent us from seeing what is really there. Just like the physical clouds prevent the eyes of men from beholding the sun, the desires of men hindered men from recognizing the return of Christ.

To further explain the teaming of clouds, the term “clouds” as used in the Bible means those things that are contrary to the ways and desires of men. They signify, in one sense, the annulment of laws, the abrogation of former Dispensations, the repeal of rituals and customs current among men. In another sense, they mean the appearance of a Manifestation of God in the image of mortal man, with such human limitations as eating and drinking, poverty and riches, sleeping and waking, and such other things as cast doubt in the minds of men, and cause them to turn away. These “veils” to recognition of a Manifestation of God are symbolically referred to as “clouds.” Just like the physical clouds prevent the eyes of men from beholding the sun, these things hinder the souls of men from recognizing the light of the Manifestation of God.

Thus the meaning of clouds is symbolic, not literal. Their judgment was clouded. When Christ returned Christians were looking for the same man Jesus in the same body that resurrected and ascended to appear in the actual physical clouds in the sky with power and great glory, trumpets and angels, but when that did not happen that way they rejected Christ when he came with His New Name.

 

[Trailblazer]

If the son of man had already come, the knowledge of Heaven would have covered the earth, babylon would be brought down, and Shiloh would have begun. But i will listen if you care to share.

No, that is not what would have happened. Below is the post where I explained what actually happened.

#607 Trailblazer

What happened to the Son of Man when He came is exactly what happened when Jesus appeared.

“When Christ appeared He manifested Himself at Jerusalem. He called men to the Kingdom of God, He invited them to Eternal Life and He told them to acquire human perfections. The Light of Guidance was shed forth by that radiant Star, and He at length gave His life in sacrifice for humanity.

All through His blessed life He suffered oppression and hardship, and in spite of all this humanity was His enemy!

They denied Him, scorned Him, ill-treated Him and cursed Him. He was not treated like a man—and yet in spite of all this He was the embodiment of pity and of supreme goodness and love……..

It was not until many years after His ascension that they knew who He was, and at the time of His ascension He had only a very few disciples; only a comparatively small following believed His precepts and followed His laws. The ignorant said, ‘Who is this individual; He has only a few disciples!’ But those who knew said: ‘He is the Sun who will shine in the East and in the West, He is the Manifestation who shall give life to the world’.

What the first disciples had seen the world realized later.” Paris Talks, pp, 116-117

 

[Yahcubs777]

Interesting, I do not believe clouds refer to literal clouds either....
I believe that clouds as they are related to the coming of the Son of Man, refer to veils.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Matthew 24:30-31 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

To explain in brief, I believe that ‘Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven’ means that the return of the Christ Spirit promised in the Bible will be made manifest from the heaven of the will of God, and will appear in the form of a human being. The term “heaven” means loftiness and exaltation. Although Jesus was delivered from the womb of His mother, in reality He descended from the heaven of the will of God. Though dwelling on this earth, His true habitation was the realms above. While walking among mortals on earth, Jesus soared in the heaven of the divine presence.

The term “clouds” as used in the Bible means those things that cloud our judgment and prevent us from seeing what is really there. Just like the physical clouds prevent the eyes of men from beholding the sun, the desires of men hindered men from recognizing the return of Christ.

To further explain the teaming of clouds, the term “clouds” as used in the Bible means those things that are contrary to the ways and desires of men. They signify, in one sense, the annulment of laws, the abrogation of former Dispensations, the repeal of rituals and customs current among men. In another sense, they mean the appearance of a Manifestation of God in the image of mortal man, with such human limitations as eating and drinking, poverty and riches, sleeping and waking, and such other things as cast doubt in the minds of men, and cause them to turn away. These “veils” to recognition of a Manifestation of God are symbolically referred to as “clouds.” Just like the physical clouds prevent the eyes of men from beholding the sun, these things hinder the souls of men from recognizing the light of the Manifestation of God.

Thus the meaning of clouds is symbolic, not literal. Their judgment was clouded. When Christ returned Christians were looking for the same man Jesus in the same body that resurrected and ascended to appear in the actual physical clouds in the sky with power and great glory, trumpets and angels, but when that did not happen that way they rejected Christ when he came with His New Name.

Thank you for your explanation. Veiled is interesting because its line with revelations that unveil what was hidden.

The new Name, is pointing to "GOD's name". GOD is not HIS name. GOD means that HE has no beginning and no end. Air has an beginning. Light has a beginning. GOD even had to create space (not space where the planets are) but square footage of space to begin creating. Else we are saying that like GOD, Space has no beginning. So among the things that will be revealed is HIS real name.

Adam is a generic name. They said it means earthy man. But it means Man that resides in a planet. GOD doesn't reside in any planet. Man, is also a generic name, a racial name and it means image of GOD. They said GOD is not a Man that HE should lie. Jesus His Pre-Eminence said the devil is the liar from the beginning. Man is the not the image of a liar. So that is not correct. So what is the image GOD then? GOD said let us make Man in our image, after our likeness. There is the image of GOD, and that is the image Father Adam had before the fall. For the fact that there is transfiguration,means that it is a different image to the one we have now.

Micha-el means "Like GOD". Therefore, it is only the Son of GOD that should bear that name. And that is the name of Adam. Before the fall, Adam gave that name to Arch Angel Michael to operate in the name and authority of the Son of GOD. That is why it was Arch Angel Michael that came for Moses, and rebuked lucifer. Cherubim are superior to Angels in heaven. So how can Arch Angel rebuke a Cherub? It is a secret i will keep lol

So what is the name of GOD? That is what will be revealed.

 

[Yahcubs777]

No, that is not what would have happened. Below is the post where I explained what actually happened.

#607 Trailblazer

What happened to the Son of Man when He came is exactly what happened when Jesus appeared.

“When Christ appeared He manifested Himself at Jerusalem. He called men to the Kingdom of God, He invited them to Eternal Life and He told them to acquire human perfections. The Light of Guidance was shed forth by that radiant Star, and He at length gave His life in sacrifice for humanity.

All through His blessed life He suffered oppression and hardship, and in spite of all this humanity was His enemy!

They denied Him, scorned Him, ill-treated Him and cursed Him. He was not treated like a man—and yet in spite of all this He was the embodiment of pity and of supreme goodness and love……..

It was not until many years after His ascension that they knew who He was, and at the time of His ascension He had only a very few disciples; only a comparatively small following believed His precepts and followed His laws. The ignorant said, ‘Who is this individual; He has only a few disciples!’ But those who knew said: ‘He is the Sun who will shine in the East and in the West, He is the Manifestation who shall give life to the world’.

What the first disciples had seen the world realized later.” Paris Talks, pp, 116-117

I understand what you are saying. But when the Son of Man comes, and at the completion of his ministry, the terrestrial earth shall pack up, and the celestial will take over. Which simply means, the earth will be transfigured into a celestial planet. So, its not like there will be people remaining behind that did know who he is. Because the only people remaining in the new earth are the people that were led by him,and transfigured alive along with him. All those that did not, will experience like a type of euthenasia, out of their pysical body, and into the ghost world where they will wait for the resurrection. Because the systems of the terrestrial will be packing up, and everything must go back to where it came from.

The earth was produced by water, so the earth will go back to water (which is what the Ark of Noah was preaching).
The mortal body was brought forth by water, so the mortal body will go back to water,
Everything that came from the air, including the water, will go back to air.
And the earth shall be a celestial heavens world after the terrestrial has packed up. This includes the sun, moon, stars, planets, all of it.

 

[Trailblazer]

The new Name, is pointing to "GOD's name". GOD is not HIS name. GOD means that HE has no beginning and no end.
So among the things that will be revealed is HIS real name.

Why would it matter what God's name is. God is God regardless of what we call Him.

So what is the name of GOD? That is what will be revealed.

I.m a little confused.
Do you believe that the Son of Man is coming to reveal GOD's real name?

 

[Trailblazer]

I understand what you are saying. But when the Son of Man comes, and at the completion of his ministry, the terrestrial earth shall pack up, and the celestial will take over. Which simply means, the earth will be transfigured into a celestial planet. So, its not like there will be people remaining behind that did know who he is. Because the only people remaining in the new earth are the people that were led by him,and transfigured alive along with him. All those that did not, will experience like a type of euthenasia, out of their pysical body, and into the ghost world where they will wait for the resurrection. Because the systems of the terrestrial will be packing up, and everything must go back to where it came from.

The earth was produced by water, so the earth will go back to water (which is what the Ark of Noah was preaching).
The mortal body was brought forth by water, so the mortal body will go back to water,
Everything that came from the air, including the water, will go back to air.
And the earth shall be a celestial heavens world after the terrestrial has packed up. This includes the sun, moon, stars, planets, all of it.

I surmise your belief is based upon what is in the Bible. Can you point me to the verses in the Bible that support your belief?

As I say to everyone I converse with, what people believe is all a matter of how they interpret the Bible, as the verses can have more than one meaning. I believe that the "Book" is the Bible that was intended to be sealed up until the time of the end, until the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days came. Being sealed up means we could not fully understand the Bible.

Daniel 12
King James Version

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

The 2,300 years came in 1844 and the book was unsealed by Baha’u’llah. That math is explained in Some Answered Questions:
10: TRADITIONAL PROOFS EXEMPLIFIED FROM THE BOOK OF DANIEL

We do not have to run to and fro anymore. Unsealing the Book means knowledge has been increased so we can now understand the true meaning of the Bible. By reading the Baha’i Writings that explain the true meaning of the Bible, we can understand what much of the Bible means that could never be understood before.

Christians have misinterpreted much of the Bible because they did not have the key to unlock the meaning. Because of the way the Bible was written, misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the Bible has been a big problem since the very beginning. Christians disagreed as to what the Bible meant and none of them clearly understood much of what it meant, and that is why there are so many different sects of Christianity. That is understandable because it was prophesied by Daniel in Daniel 12 that the Book would be sealed up until the time of the end, meaning nobody would really understand it.

We do not have to run to and fro anymore. Unsealing the Book means knowledge has been increased so we can now understand the true meaning of the Bible. By reading the Baha’i Writings that explain the true meaning of the Bible, we can understand what much of the Bible means that could never be understood before.

 

[Yahcubs777]

I surmise your belief is based upon what is in the Bible. Can you point me to the verses in the Bible that support your belief?

As I say to everyone I converse with, what people believe is all a matter of how they interpret the Bible, as the verses can have more than one meaning. I believe that the "Book" is the Bible that was intended to be sealed up until the time of the end, until the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days came. Being sealed up means we could not fully understand the Bible.

Daniel 12
King James Version

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

The 2,300 years came in 1844 and the book was unsealed by Baha’u’llah. That math is explained in Some Answered Questions:
10: TRADITIONAL PROOFS EXEMPLIFIED FROM THE BOOK OF DANIEL

We do not have to run to and fro anymore. Unsealing the Book means knowledge has been increased so we can now understand the true meaning of the Bible. By reading the Baha’i Writings that explain the true meaning of the Bible, we can understand what much of the Bible means that could never be understood before.

Christians have misinterpreted much of the Bible because they did not have the key to unlock the meaning. Because of the way the Bible was written, misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the Bible has been a big problem since the very beginning. Christians disagreed as to what the Bible meant and none of them clearly understood much of what it meant, and that is why there are so many different sects of Christianity. That is understandable because it was prophesied by Daniel in Daniel 12 that the Book would be sealed up until the time of the end, meaning nobody would really understand it.

We do not have to run to and fro anymore. Unsealing the Book means knowledge has been increased so we can now understand the true meaning of the Bible. By reading the Baha’i Writings that explain the true meaning of the Bible, we can understand what much of the Bible means that could never be understood before.

The 2300 days, is a code. Its not 2300 years. Just like a time, times and half a time is not 3.5 days. It is Prophetic language. Look at the first verse that you posted.
seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

If it was heavens system of counting, 1 day is 1000 years. So 2300 days is 2,300 years, which we have not even reached yet. And if it is months, like 40 and 2 months, then its not anywhere close to what was sealed.

That seal meant that daniel should write the things in Prophetic language. For example, The abomination that causeth desolation, what is it? its coded.

Then when you read the words of Jesus His Pre-Eminence, you will see that HE talked about those called at the 11th hour. How does that agree with 2300 days? That is what it means that the book was sealed. John the beloved was told to eat the book that was given him, and he sealed the events in Prophetic language. Isaiah also sealed his writings.

This is very deep revelation, its not milk its meat. How does 2300 days agree with called at the 11th hour?

It is written: Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Then Jesus His Pre-Eminence said speaking in a parable Matthew 20:1-16, there are those that were called at the 11th hour. And First shall be last, and the last shall be first.

How does these two agree with each other, if it is as you say?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

I would say there is too much dodgy stuff from Christians and from anti Chrisitians.

The world is a pretty screwed-up place, ain't it?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

My Faith, which is not what you think, has nothing to do with the Logos of GOD. The Logos of GOD is HIS unalterable blueprint of the plan of salvation. My faith cannot affect that whatsoever.

Faith was spoken as a parable, that manifested the desires of the false. What i mean is they ran with faith and claimed it is everything, and even claimed it is GOD who gives it to you, so those who don't have it too bad you were not chosen... LIES. They claimed that by faith you can claim your car, your house, your job, whatsoever you want in this world, ask and it shall be given. Nonsense.

Faith is Revelations. Faith is Revelations from GOD which was called the hidden Manna, the nucleus of the message. For example, to someone that lacks Revelations, they cannot know anything about heaven.For them, its just believe in it. But a man with Revelations revealed things about Heaven, an insiders report into the happenings in the celestial. And an example of this is John the beloved, who wrote: The book of Revelation..

So its not just a measure of belief, its knowledge of GOD, and of HIS Logos.

An example of a Revelation is hidden message in why Moses parted the red sea, what was that pointing to? Why didn't the Sons of Jacob who travelled from Cana'an to Egypt, why didn't they need to also part the red sea to get there? Why couldn't they push down the walls of Jericho? But just simply walking around it was enough? Why did Noah,who is the 2nd Angel of the 2nd Church age, not save anybody else except his family. What did Enoch do, to transfigure in life? The Answers to these questions are Revelations, hidden in the events that are not plain to see, nor read. That is what a Revelation is.

That is some heavy stuff, friend. It's almost like New Age. Doesn't sound like the tradition faith as in "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Are you a fundamentalist?

 

[Yahcubs777]

Why would it matter what God's name is. God is God regardless of what we call Him.

I.m a little confused.
Do you believe that the Son of Man is coming to reveal GOD's real name?

It is among the things that will be revealed.

No, the Son of man is the forerunner for the second coming of Jesus His Pre-Eminence. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,and the hearts of the children to the fathers
Malachi 4:4-6

And he will speak all that he hears And he will lead us into all truth.
John 16:12-15

And all that do not hearken to him shall be cut off from among the people.
Acts 3:19-23

And he will finish the mystery of GOD
Revelation 10:7

We are supposed to have a desire to know GOD. If you really think it wouldn't be great to know the name of GOD, then i don't know what to tell you. Do you refer to your family members as Man and woman? Or do they have names? What is the purpose of those names?

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

It is among the things that will be revealed.

No, the Son of man is the forerunner for the second coming of Jesus His Pre-Eminence. And he will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,and the hearts of the children to the fathers
Malachi 4:4-6

And he will speak all that he hears And he will lead us into all truth.
John 16:12-15

And all that do not hearken to him shall be cut off from among the people.
Acts 3:19-23

And he will finish the mystery of GOD
Revelation 10:7

We are supposed to have a desire to know GOD. If you really think it wouldn't be great to know the name of GOD, then i don't know what to tell you. Do you refer to your family members as Man and woman? Or do they have names? What is the purpose of those names?

God has a name? You mean like Sam or Joe?

 

[Yahcubs777]

That is some heavy stuff, friend. It's almost like New Age. Doesn't sound like the tradition faith as in "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Are you a fundamentalist?

Revelations is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen. For example, you haven't seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence, but what you believe in is the revelations brought out by Isaiah, and Daniel, and the Prophets, that Prophesied of HIS coming, and also the writings concerning HIM. These are Revelations.

And by it the elders obtained a good report. Who are the elders? How can we know that GOD is all knowing, if not by Revelation revealed to us by the Prophets?

You see what proves the real "believers" in the bible, is that they didn't just take it as a story that happened, like a story book, and just believed what was written...

What proved the true "believers" is that they looked further into them, that they saw as reality, and discovered the meanings, the messages behind those events. That is what it means to seek the kingdom.

For example: why did Jesus His Pre-Eminence walk on water? Why was it 6 pots of water that was changed to wine? Why 6 specifically? And what was the message behind it? Who's wedding was it? Why was Mary who they came to, looking for more wine?

Why were only some healed by HIM and others were not? HE didn't just do things arbitrarily, HE preached the Gospel of Everlasting life. There are messages in all the things that HE did.

 

[Yahcubs777]

God has a name? You mean like Sam or Joe?

No i don't.

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Revelations is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen. For example, you haven't seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence, but what you believe in is the revelations brought out by Isaiah, and Daniel, and the Prophets, that Prophesied of HIS coming, and also the writings concerning HIM. These are Revelations.

And by it the elders obtained a good report. Who are the elders? How can we know that GOD is all knowing, if not by Revelation revealed to us by the Prophets?

You see what proves the real "believers" in the bible, is that they didn't just take it as a story that happened, like a story book, and just believed what was written...

What proved the true "believers" is that they looked further into them, that they saw as reality, and discovered the meanings, the messages behind those events. That is what it means to seek the kingdom.

For example: why did Jesus His Pre-Eminence walk on water? Why was it 6 pots of water that was changed to wine? Why 6 specifically? And what was the message behind it? Who's wedding was it? Why was Mary who they came to, looking for more wine?

Why were only some healed by HIM and others were not? HE didn't just do things arbitrarily, HE preached the Gospel of Everlasting life. There are messages in all the things that HE did.

I don't know....Hebrews uses the specific word, "faith" not revelation. If I were still a Christian I'd say your philosophy sounds pretty dicey.