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Isn’t idolatry (associating partners with G-d) gross injustice?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Dunno, but I think paarsurrey just admitted the possibility that he worships Odin.
I have told here many a times here that YHVH is also the same as Allah, Brahman, Ahura-Mazda with following names:


220px-Allah3.svg.png

160px-Allah_Names_in_Chinese_Arabic_Script.jpg

99 names of Allah, in Chinese Sini (script)

God - Wikipedia
220px-Monad.svg.png

Allāh (Arabic: الله‎‎) is the Arabic term with no plural used by Muslims and Arabic speaking Christians and Jews meaning "The God" (with a capital G), while "ʾilāh" (Arabic: إله‎‎) is the term used for a deity or a god in general.[29][30][31]
Zoroastrianism, 101 names of God (Pazand Sad-o-yak nam-i-khoda) is a list of names of God (Ahura Mazda)

101 Names of God - Wikipedia
Ahura Mazda is the name for God used in Zoroastrianism. "Mazda", or rather the Avestan stem-form Mazdā-, nominative Mazdå, reflects Proto-Iranian *Mazdāh (female). It is generally taken to be the proper name of the spirit, and like its Sanskrit cognate medhā, means "intelligence" or "wisdom". Both the Avestan and Sanskrit words reflect Proto-Indo-Iranian *mazdhā-, from Proto-Indo-European mn̩sdʰeh1, literally meaning "placing (dʰeh1) one's mind (*mn̩-s)", hence "wise".[33]

Waheguru (Punjabi: vāhigurū) is a term most often used in Sikhism to refer to God. It means "Wonderful Teacher" in the Punjabi language. Vāhi (a Middle Persian borrowing) means "wonderful" and guru (Sanskrit: guru) is a term denoting "teacher". Waheguru is also described by some as an experience of ecstasy which is beyond all descriptions. The most common usage of the word "Waheguru" is in the greeting Sikhs use with each other:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Wonderful Lord's Khalsa, Victory is to the Wonderful Lord.
God - Wikipedia
The Abrahamic conceptions of God include the monotheistic definition of God in Judaism.
The dharmic religions differ in their view of the divine: views of God in Hinduism vary by region, sect, and caste, ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic. Divinity was recognized by the historical Buddha, particularly Śakra and Brahma. However, other sentient beings, including gods, can at best only play a supportive role in one's personal path to salvation. Conceptions of God in the latter developments of the Mahayana tradition give a more prominent place to notions of the divine.[citation needed]
Monotheists hold that there is only one god, and may claim that the one true god is worshiped in different religions under different names. The view that all theists actually worship the same god, whether they know it or not, is especially emphasized in Hinduism[35] and Sikhism.
Islam's most fundamental concept is tawhid (meaning "oneness" or "uniqueness"). God is described in the Quran as: "Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him."[38][39] . In Islam, God is beyond all comprehension or equal and does not resemble any of his creations in any way. Thus, Muslims are not iconodules, and are not expected to visualize God.[40]

Henotheism is the belief and worship of a single god while accepting the existence or possible existence of other deities.[41]

Please
Regards


 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I dunno, you did just say that "the Creator" has "Absolute Knowledge". And it is known that Odin sacrificed his eye for absolute knowledge, and hung himself upon the World Tree to know the runes.
"I dunno"

Please support one's point of view with certainty, citing something from Revelation and or science. Please
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Because only the Creator has the Absolute Knowledge of everything. Please
Regards
Even assuming that there is a conscious creator of everything, all that means is that he would not use scriptures, let alone state that those can be incorruptible and eternal.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Even assuming that there is a conscious creator of everything, all that means is that he would not use scriptures, let alone state that those can be incorruptible and eternal.
"all that means is that he would not use scriptures"
The verbal revelation when committed to writing becomes scripture. It is for human convenience. Quran is secure in both forms.
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
"all that means is that he would not use scriptures"
The verbal revelation when committed to writing becomes scripture.


And, as it turns out, written scripture is perhaps the lesser of all known means of religious tools. It all but begs to be misunderstood and interpreted in abusive and even all-out insane ways.

Oral tradition is a far superior means of religious transmission, because it involves actual people with the ability to gauge the quality of their mutual understanding and make course corrections.

Surely a god would know that. After all, humans do.

It is for human convenience. Quran is secure in both forms.
Regards
... according to the Qur'an.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
It is for everybody who makes idols for worship (or worships idols made by others).
Idols are of no use, it diverts attention from ONE-GOD, one loses concentration. Please
Regards
You mean like the way some Muslims make idols of Muhammad and the Quran?

I mean... killing someone for just drawing a picture of Muhammad - that seems to qualify as "idolatry" by the standards of this thread. Same for responding with violence when someone destroys a Quran.

Don't you agree?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I have told here many a times here that YHVH is also the same as Allah, Brahman, Ahura-Mazda with following names:


220px-Allah3.svg.png

160px-Allah_Names_in_Chinese_Arabic_Script.jpg

99 names of Allah, in Chinese Sini (script)

God - Wikipedia
220px-Monad.svg.png

Allāh (Arabic: الله‎‎) is the Arabic term with no plural used by Muslims and Arabic speaking Christians and Jews meaning "The God" (with a capital G), while "ʾilāh" (Arabic: إله‎‎) is the term used for a deity or a god in general.[29][30][31]
Zoroastrianism, 101 names of God (Pazand Sad-o-yak nam-i-khoda) is a list of names of God (Ahura Mazda)

101 Names of God - Wikipedia
Ahura Mazda is the name for God used in Zoroastrianism. "Mazda", or rather the Avestan stem-form Mazdā-, nominative Mazdå, reflects Proto-Iranian *Mazdāh (female). It is generally taken to be the proper name of the spirit, and like its Sanskrit cognate medhā, means "intelligence" or "wisdom". Both the Avestan and Sanskrit words reflect Proto-Indo-Iranian *mazdhā-, from Proto-Indo-European mn̩sdʰeh1, literally meaning "placing (dʰeh1) one's mind (*mn̩-s)", hence "wise".[33]

Waheguru (Punjabi: vāhigurū) is a term most often used in Sikhism to refer to God. It means "Wonderful Teacher" in the Punjabi language. Vāhi (a Middle Persian borrowing) means "wonderful" and guru (Sanskrit: guru) is a term denoting "teacher". Waheguru is also described by some as an experience of ecstasy which is beyond all descriptions. The most common usage of the word "Waheguru" is in the greeting Sikhs use with each other:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
Wonderful Lord's Khalsa, Victory is to the Wonderful Lord.
God - Wikipedia
The Abrahamic conceptions of God include the monotheistic definition of God in Judaism.
The dharmic religions differ in their view of the divine: views of God in Hinduism vary by region, sect, and caste, ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic. Divinity was recognized by the historical Buddha, particularly Śakra and Brahma. However, other sentient beings, including gods, can at best only play a supportive role in one's personal path to salvation. Conceptions of God in the latter developments of the Mahayana tradition give a more prominent place to notions of the divine.[citation needed]
Monotheists hold that there is only one god, and may claim that the one true god is worshiped in different religions under different names. The view that all theists actually worship the same god, whether they know it or not, is especially emphasized in Hinduism[35] and Sikhism.
Islam's most fundamental concept is tawhid (meaning "oneness" or "uniqueness"). God is described in the Quran as: "Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him."[38][39] . In Islam, God is beyond all comprehension or equal and does not resemble any of his creations in any way. Thus, Muslims are not iconodules, and are not expected to visualize God.[40]

Henotheism is the belief and worship of a single god while accepting the existence or possible existence of other deities.[41]
I forgot to mention the link at the end:
God - Wikipedia
Please
Regards
 
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