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Islam is unable to relate to the diverse contemporary cultures
- Thread starter shunyadragon
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Remté
Active Member
You mean Shia?
Yes, sorry for the misspelling.
Does not make sense. Yes ancient tribal religions like Judaism and Islam cannot relate to diverse contemporary cultures.
What is 9-18-1?
The spreading of Islam is not related to the primary reason people convert. High birth rates and migration is the reason for the growth and spreading of Islam.
Though many contemporary laws are base don Baha'i principles and laws.
Remté
Active Member
Taking the time range it would make more sense to assume that the Baha'i principles and laws are based on contemporary principles and laws.
Yes
Bahais are instructed to obey the laws of the lands which they live in.
At which point non-Bahais will be subjected to Bahai laws.
Here on RF I have read that LSAs (Local Houses of Justice by then) will have the power to fine couples who have sex outside of wedlock, and adultery will be a criminal offence, the penalties to be decided by the UHJ.
And 'no', I'm not going back to search through the threads for that. It's for you to investigate ....
And so in a Bahai country the Bahai inheritance, laws, treasure trove laws, ALL the Bahai civil laws will remain locked up in a cupboard?
So you're saying that the Bahai international police force, Bahai criminal laws and punishments, Bahai government, Bashai World Order........ this will never ever be put in place, even if a majority of people in a country are Bahais?
Hmmm....... I don't believe your suggestions, here, I'm afraid.
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Oh alright..... I'll save you from your own search. I enquired of tghe WWW and many sites offered the same info.... I just snatched the first one for your further information about Bahai:-
Adultery and sexual intercourse between unmarried couples: Sexual intercourse between unmarried couples is punishable by a fine paid to the Local Spiritual Assembly; the penalty for adultery is left to the Universal House of Justice. Arson: The punishment for arson is either the death penalty or life imprisonment.
Bahá'í laws - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá%27í_laws
It's going to be a very unfree world, a Bahai World, I'm afraid.
A select citation of Baha'i scripture does not reflect the reality of the possibilities of a future government. Yes these are excerpts are from Baha'i references to Baha'i Laws, but are incomplete citations, and neglect the fact that the Baha'i Administration is an elected by consent of the believers, and they would determine which laws are implemented and how. When a nation would become predominately Baha'i then the laws would likely more reflect Baha'i beliefs and laws, which is not bad concerning the Baha'i prohibition of all forms of slavery, and secular and legal rights for women. Also neglecting the fact that the Baha'i principles and laws is an evolving process. Even now in many countries today similar laws to Baha'i Laws are coming into secular laws, such as penalties for adultery, ie alimony in the case of divorce, which did not exist in the past.
This neglects the purpose of the thread in how different religions are relevant to the contemporary world on how they relate to those who believe differently, ie the problems of relationships of the tribal religions of Judaism and Islam.
Taking the time frame involved this is not the case. The spiritual laws and principles of the ancient religions failed to address the issues specifically as the Baha'i writings do in the contemporary world
You are also neglecting the fact that the teachings in the scriptures of the Torah, T.anakh, Bible, and the Quran are totally out of touch with the contemporary world, like the lack of specific laws prohibiting slavery, rape and the rights of women in society, and the tribal views of their relationship with those that believe differently.
If take your view above to a logical conclusion it is evolving secular humanist views that would be more relevant than religions. Nonetheless later 20th century Humanist Manifestos adopted Baha'i principles and teachings.
Remté
Active Member
And what new and useful has Baha'i brought?
The Quran is detailed about women's rights and slavery as well as abuse.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
shunyadragon said: ↑
Not true, it was your selective interpretation of historical references to justify your religious agenda. I did not disgree with your references, just your misuse of them.
Regards
Not true, it was your selective interpretation of historical references to justify your religious agenda. I did not disgree with your references, just your misuse of them.
It is a correct observation.
Regards
Shad
Veteran Member
Nope.
Yes, for example the social and legal equality for women, and a principle lacking in the scripture of Judaism, Christianity, nor Islam.
Also the mandatory education of children, both girls and boys.
Also the prohibition of all forms of slavery including indentured servitude.
Nothing here coopted from the scriptures of Judaism, Christianity nor Islam
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Shad
Veteran Member
Nope. You are merely co-opting existing systems as your own.
Yes, for example the social and legal equality for women, and a principle lacking in the scripture of Judaism, Christianity, nor Islam.
Also the mandatory education of children, both girls and boys.
Shad
Veteran Member
No nation used your religion as a basis for equality laws.
Remté
Active Member
And you think that's due to Baha'i faith? That is so deluded.
And as I said before it is in the Quran.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
It's no good pointing in any other direction. It was written. Enough.