Islam’s teaching on response to abuse and mockery

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Is there a particular set of Hadiths you follow?

Ur question is unclear.

 

[Godobeyer]

• Different "groups" all Islamic-tons of 'em.
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• 1 The Quran and sectarianism
• 2 Classical denominations
  • 2.1 Sunni Islam
    • 2.1.1 Schools of Sunni jurisprudence
      • 2.1.1.1 Hanafi
      • 2.1.1.2 Maliki
      • 2.1.1.3 Shafiʿi
      • 2.1.1.4 Hanbali
      • 2.1.1.5 Ẓāhirī
    • 2.1.2 Movements
      • 2.1.2.1 Salafi movement
        • 2.1.2.1.1Wahhabism
        • 2.1.2.1.2 Ahl al-Hadith
      • 2.1.2.2 Political movements
  • 2.2 Shia Islam
    • 2.2.1 Schools of Shia jurisprudence
      • 2.2.1.1 Twelver
        • 2.2.1.1.1 Ja'fari jurisprudence
        • 2.2.1.1.2 Batini jurisprudence
      • 2.2.1.2 Ismā'īlīsm
        • 2.2.1.2.1 Tāiyebī Mustā'līyyah
        • 2.2.1.2.2Nīzār'īyyah
        • 2.2.1.2.3 Durziyyah
      • 2.2.1.3 Zaidiyyah
      • 2.2.1.4 Ansaris or Ansars
    • 2.2.2 Ghulāt movements in the history
  • 2.3 Tasawwufī tārīqat
    • 2.3.1 Bektashi
    • 2.3.2 Chishti
    • 2.3.3 Kubrawiya
    • 2.3.4 Mawlawiyya
    • 2.3.5 Muridiyya
    • 2.3.6 Naqshbandi
    • 2.3.7 Nimatullahi
    • 2.3.8 Nurbakshi
    • 2.3.9 Oveyssi (Uwaiysi)
    • 2.3.10 Qadiri
    • 2.3.11 Senussi
    • 2.3.12 Shadiliyya
    • 2.3.13 Suhrawardiyya
    • 2.3.14 Tijaniyya
  • 2.4 Kharijiyyah Islam
    • 2.4.1 Ibadi
    • 2.4.2 Isawiyya
    • 2.4.3 Extinct groups
• 3 Latter-day denominations
  • 3.1 African American movements
    • 3.1.1 Moorish Science
    • 3.1.2 Nation of Islam
      • 3.1.2.1 Five Percenter
  • 3.2 Ahmadiyya Islam
    • 3.2.1 Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
    • 3.2.2 Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement
  • 3.3 Mahdavia
    • 3.3.1 Mahdavi
    • 3.3.2 Zikri
  • 3.4 Muwahhid Muslim
  • 3.5 Nondenominational Muslim
    • 3.5.1 Tolu-e-Islam
  • 3.6 Quranism
    • 3.6.1 Ahle Qur'an
    • 3.6.2 Submitters
• 4 Aqidah schools of divinity
  • 4.1 Textualist approach: Athari
  • 4.2 Kalām
    • 4.2.1 Ash'ari
    • 4.2.2 Maturidi
  • 4.3 Murji'ah
  • 4.4 Qadar’iyyah
    • 4.4.1 Mu'tazili
  • 4.5 Jabr’iyyah
  • 4.6 Bāṭen’iyyah
• 5 Related concepts
  • 5.1 Islamism
  • 5.2 Liberal Islam

it's not big deal that labels and misuderstanding and illusion the people here , in end all of them consider them self Muslims .

so if someone follow me , he/she called his belief Godobeyer's islam !!!! lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Looks like Muslims aren't the only ones who want to stop mockery of historical figures.

And Obama also said the future must not belong to those who "bully women, those who target coptic Christians in Egypt, dictators who massacre their country's citizens, and those who turn their backs on peace.....The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country's resources — it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people.... It's time to heed the words of Gandhi: "Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit."
Giving Islam with three sentences, and making it share one of those with Christianity, isn't giving that big of a consideration towards Islam.
And, no, the future shouldn't belong to bullies and aggressors. Like him or not, Obama was correct in that speech.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anyone who insults islam or prophet Muhammad pbuh within muslim country deserves execution or exile by the state. But i think execution is closer to the truth. Exile is not bad choice either.

Why should death ever be an option because someone does something you don't like?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Why should death ever be an option because someone does something you don't like?

Well obviously iam not talking about someone who says: Hey u know what? I dont like islam at all.
Or someone who says : hey, i dont believe in islam. I rather be atheist, christian.

Iam talking about someone who constantly abuses islam and prophet pbuh, and his/her only intention is to provoke muslims.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Iam talking about someone who constantly abuses islam and prophet pbuh, and his/her only intention is to provoke muslims.

Why is death even an option, though?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Why is death even an option, though?

These are regulations that is followed.

In bible it says whoever serves false gods must be put to death.

Death is only a door to other dimensions.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

These are regulations that is followed.

In bible it says whoever serves false gods must be put to death.

Death is only a door to other dimensions.

But why apply it to those who don't believe anyways?

 

[psychoslice]

I think if we cannot see the funny side of our beliefs, or anything in our life, then we are done for, a good sense of humour is a sign of good intelligence.

 

[peanutbutter63]

Well shows my ignorance. I thought maybe it was a difference between the Shia and Sunni, didn't know there was a third branch. I was was about to ask that question.

The 2 and 3 views seem to come more from the Hadiths than the Quran. The Hadiths are also the source for Sharia law?

There is also the Ibadi and the Quranists. The Quranists reject all Hadiths. So one is likely to get very different responses to questions depending on which group one is dealing with.

 

[peanutbutter63]

There are millions upon millions today of the many differing interpretations of Islam out there. Think about it....what is the figure of the world's Islamic population today? That's how many interpretations there are out there. There's no such thing as THERE'S ONLY ONE ISLAM...

 

[peanutbutter63]

Humor and religion, I must have millions of those by now...well, ok...maybe not that many....how about this one....

 

[peanutbutter63]

 

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[psychoslice]

Good one peanutbutter63, that's what its all about, humour.

 

[Looncall]

Well obviously iam not talking about someone who says: Hey u know what? I dont like islam at all.
Or someone who says : hey, i dont believe in islam. I rather be atheist, christian.

Iam talking about someone who constantly abuses islam and prophet pbuh, and his/her only intention is to provoke muslims.

I see, like muslim scriptures, clerics and media constantly do to non-muslims?

 

[MARCELLO]

Well, well, a self-confessed barbarian!

Or in other words, a self denying one.

 

[Revoltingest]

I doubt a muslim would insult christian historical figures. In islam its not allowed to insult holy ones of religions. This is why u dont see me badmouthing hindu dieties etc.

You don't badmouth others' deities, but people aren't perfect, so just as some non-Muslims dis Islam, so would some Muslims dis Xianity.
(We see very un-Islamic behavior by Muslims all the time, eg, ISIS, Boko Haram. So un-Islamic speech would exist too.)
Would you condone the killing of anyone who badmouths the majority religion in every country?
How about badmouthing secularism where that rules?

Going back to the OP....

"The Qur'an says that Allah curses the one who harms the Prophet in this world and He connected harm of Himself to harm of the Prophet. There is no dispute that anyone who curses Allah is killed and that his curse demands that he be categorised as an unbeliever. The judgement of the unbeliever is that he is killed."

It's pretty reasonable to read the underlined part as saying that we unbelievers (atheist here) should be killed.
Do you agree that I should be killed for not believing, or for saying publicly that I disbelieve?
Or is the quoted text an inaccurate translation?