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ISIS Enshrines a Theology of Rape

Akivah

Well-Known Member
ISIS has published a pamphlet of FAQ regarding their rape and slavery practices
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8708.htm

In late 2014, the Research and Fatwa Department of the Islamic State released a pamphlet on the topic of female captives and slaves. The pamphlet, dated Muharram 1436 (October/November 2014) and printed by the ISIS publishing house Al-Himma Library, was titled Su'al wa-Jawab fi al-Sabi wa-Riqab ("Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves").

"Question 1: What is al-sabi?

"Al-Sabi is a woman from among ahl al-harb [the people of war] who has been captured by Muslims.

"Question 2: What makes al-sabi permissible?
"What makes al-sabi permissible [i.e., what makes it permissible to take such a woman captive] is [her] unbelief. Unbelieving [women] who were captured and brought into the abode of Islam are permissible to us, after the imam distributes them [among us]."

"Question 3: Can all unbelieving women be taken captive?
"There is no dispute among the scholars that it is permissible to capture unbelieving women [who are characterized by] original unbelief [kufr asli], such as the kitabiyat [women from among the People of the Book, i.e. Jews and Christians] and polytheists. However, [the scholars] are disputed over [the issue of] capturing apostate women. The consensus leans towards forbidding it, though some people of knowledge think it permissible. We [ISIS] lean towards accepting the consensus…"

"Question 4: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female captive?
"It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with the female captive. Allah the almighty said: '[Successful are the believers] who guard their chastity, except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are free from blame [Koran 23:5-6]'..."

"Question 6: Is it permissible to sell a female captive?
"It is permissible to buy, sell, or give as a gift female captives and slaves, for they are merely property, which can be disposed of as long as that doesn't cause any harm or damage."

"Question 7: Is it permissible to separate a mother from her children through [the act of] buying and selling?
"It is not permissible to separate a mother from her prepubescent children through buying, selling or giving away [a captive or slave]. [But] it is permissible to separate them if the children are grown and mature."

"Question 8: If two or more [men] buy a female captive together, does she then become [sexually] permissible to each of them?
"It is forbidden to have intercourse with a female captive if [the master] does not own her exclusively. One who owns [a captive] in partnership [with others] may not have sexual intercourse with her until the other [owners] sell or give him [their share]."

"Question 13: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female slave who has not reached puberty?
"It is permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who has not reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse; however if she is not fit for intercourse, then it is enough to enjoy her without intercourse."

"Question 19: Is it permissible to beat a female slave?
"It is permissible to beat the female slave as a [form of] darb ta'deeb [disciplinary beating], [but] it is forbidden to [use] darb al-takseer [literally, breaking beating], [darb] al-tashaffi [beating for the purpose of achieving gratification], or [darb] al-ta'dheeb [torture beating]. Further, it is forbidden to hit the face."

Question 20: What is the ruling regarding a female slave who runs away from her master?
"A male or female slave's running away [from their master] is among the gravest of sins…"

"Question 24: If a man marries a female slave who is owned by someone else, who is allowed to have intercourse with her?
"A master is prohibited from having intercourse with his female slave who is married to someone else; instead, the master receives her service, [while] the husband [gets to] enjoy her [sexually]."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wow ... Talk about depravity. This is so disgusting. We have got to annhialate this group of sociopaths.
Shhhhhhhhhh!
Politicians might hear you.
Many are just itching for another 'good' war.

Hmmmm......to focus upon rape is so narrow.
There's also murder, torture, theft, destruction of history, denial of education,
religious bigotry, LGBT hatred, & overall violent oppression.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Shhhhhhhhhh!
Politicians might hear you.
Many are just itching for another 'good' war.
I'm usually all about diplomacy, but, with a group that is pure evil and distruction/violence/torture such as this, I'm not sure whether it is an option. They have no end-game, so there really isn't any way to figure them out.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm usually all about diplomacy, but, with a group that is pure evil and distruction/violence/torture such as this, I'm not sure whether it is an option. They have no end-game, so there really isn't any way to figure them out.
Rooting out the Taliban in Afghanistan didn't go well for us.
Sometimes, it's best to just allow evil to exist somewhere.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Rooting out the Taliban in Afghanistan didn't go well for us.
Sometimes, it's best to just allow evil to exist somewhere.
That might be true when it comes to the Taliban, but this group is far more dangerous. I mean, destroying historical artifacts?! What is their deal?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I think any kind of success will have to come from within Islam. Islamic leaders need to put themselves in harms way in order to contradict these radical and nonsensical claims.

Well, in the long run they'll attempt to take over Istanbul, and the chances of that happening successfully is pretty slim.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That might be true when it comes to the Taliban, but this group is far more dangerous. I mean, destroying historical artifacts?! What is their deal?
Their deal is to wield uncompromising brutal power.
But is it worth it to mount a war which could cost hundreds of billions of dollars?
Should we also go everywhere else on the planet where terrible evils are perpetuated?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Their deal is to wield uncompromising brutal power.
But is it worth it to mount a war which could cost hundreds of billions of dollars?
Should we also go everywhere else on the planet where terrible evils are perpetuated?
If Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the rest don't stop them, unfortunately it may come to that. If they spread too far, there is too great of a chance them posing a significant threat to every one else, possibly on a scale that ignites WWIII.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the rest don't stop them, unfortunately it may come to that. If they spread too far, there is too great of a chance them posing a significant threat to every one else, possibly on a scale that ignites WWIII.
I wouldn't address their spread until they become a very real & active enemy to us, & not just to our sensibilities & their countrymen.

There's a larger picture here.....
We rattle our sabers when there's mischief in the middle eastern Islamic world.
But we don't do the same towards other vicious human rights violators,
eg, N Korea, Nigeria, Myanmar, Somalia, DR Congo, Sudan.
If we should invade in one such place, then why not the others?
A couple possibilities......
1) It's an emotional reaction based upon where our focus is. (Unapologetic rape of women matters most.)
2) It's about proximity to Israel, & what concerns them, ie, the tail wagging the dog.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I wouldn't address their spread until they become a very real & active enemy to us, & not just to our sensibilities & their countrymen.
While I agree, we shouldn't hold off planning either. It is definitely a situation in which it would be best to prepare for a disaster that never happens rather than let it catch us off guard like it did a good sized chunk of the Middle Easter.
 

Mitch M

Member
Hello there friends. - ,

My Message is a REPLY - to a Comment made by dust1n Zindīq from Austin, TX.
dust1n Was showing us a scene in the Bible in .....Numbers: Chapter 31.

7 The Jews warred against the Midianites, slew all the males. slew the kings - took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, they brought the captives, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and killed every male among the little ones, and killed every woman that had known a man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, They KEPT alive for Themselves.
..................................
You should keep in mind that the Midianites were aggressors against the Hebrews. The Midianites JOINED Up with the Enemies of Israel who were trying to eXterminate the Hebrews
Please NOTICE in - Deu 25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt;
Deu 25:18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God.

Deu 25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.

The Amalekites attacked the Hebrews from behind
as they were escaping and moving away - from Egypt.
The Amalekites attacked the Weaker people who were = at the Rear of the traveling Jews, who were feeble faint and weary.

The Book of Psalms clarifies the environment and duties of the Israelites When they Go to war against their Enemies who had been attacking them.

Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
Psa 83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Psa 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
Psa 83:7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
Psa 83:8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
Psa 83:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
Psa 83:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

please Keep in mind that these Canaanites Attacked the Hebrews First and made war on them when they were traveling on their way from Egypt. They were trying to eXterminate them. So the Hebrews Won the War. Killed Everyone of them But were allowed to SAVE the VIRGIN Women who could be made into CLEAN future Wives for them.

The Hebrews did not Run around attacking people for no reason, Just to rape their women. PLEASE READ the FULL HISTORY.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You should keep in mind that the Midianites were aggressors against the Hebrews. The Midianites JOINED Up with the Enemies of Israel who were trying to eXterminate the Hebrews
That still does not excuse taking virgins for themselves, and killing everyone else. Where there is a war, there are those who are opposed to it. Why were they not spared? Why were the children not spared, as they were powerless to do anything.
please Keep in mind that these Canaanites Attacked the Hebrews First and made war on them when they were traveling on their way from Egypt. They were trying to eXterminate them. So the Hebrews Won the War. Killed Everyone of them But were allowed to SAVE the VIRGIN Women who could be made into CLEAN future Wives for them.
It still doesn't excuse taking them for themselves. It still doesn't excuse genocide. Many of them wouldn't have fought against the Hebrews, why weren't they spared? Why was everyone's death necessary?
 

Mitch M

Member
When You go to War against a Nation the Often need and the Custom and Practice was to Kill their Women and Children as well..
The United States went to war against Germany, Italy, Japan, Vietnam, and Against Muslims too. We KNOW Full and Well that the WHOLE SALE Slaughter of Woman and Children is a Must. It happens In every single Major war.

the Woman and Children work to Keep the War Machine Going. The Woman and Youth of our enemies worked to make Bullets, Clothing, Medical Packs and Boots and Other Bomb making tools and explosives, all various Instruments of War.

The Woman and Children of the Enemy are Just as important as the Soldiers. The Woman and Youth FILL the Factories and Work to make supplies and Tools and to AID their Soldiers. We Crushed our Enemies. Destroyed these Factories and Plants and Storage facilities. Woman and Youth, work around the Clock to Prepare Food and medical Kits for the Soldiers. these Woman and Children are a major TARGET in a Real War.

In Little police actions and small military ops, where we have the Upper hand. We can Pretend that Woman and Children are special. But when it comes to a REAL WAR. All that garbage goes out the door.

If - You are Fighting Several Enemies at once, OUTNUMBERED and Loosing Men and suffering and loosing and prolonging the war by keeping these Woman and Children alive. Just to be RECRUITED Again by another enemy and help them. the Children of the Enemy Grew up to be Adults. New Warriors , NEW Fighters, NEW TERRORISTS who were TAUGHT and raised and trained to HATE and Kill and make war against the Jews, who had Killed their Fathers.

The best Way was to Completely destroy the Enemy and those who attacked you Completely and Fully.

The Hebrews were behaving normal. After being attacked by Overwhelming odds and being abused by their Neighboring Nations, the Jews Finished the Wars and Won and survived, by Killing Woman and Children. Millions and Millions and millions of Woman and Children have died in WW ll, in Vietnam, in The Middle East. had we not Killed WOMEN and CHILDREN in these REAL WARS. We would have never, EVER won the wars and would not survive.

I am Glad to Discuss this with You....... Perhaps You would rather that the Hebrews had not Survived ?
they did not want to allow the Children of their Enemy to grow up and continue fighting against them and they did not want to ADOPT them because they were the Children of their Enemy.
 
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raph

Member
I dont know why almost nobody is fighting these devils. They even do their crimes in the west, we even have egoistic reasons to destroy them.
All leaders of the world should send their armies and destroy these lowlifes in a week. The world has enough armies, to destroy groups like these brutally, so that anyone who want to be a terrorist will think twice about that. Omg we arr not in the year -1000, it is 2015.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I dont know why almost nobody is fighting these devils. They even do their crimes in the west, we even have egoistic reasons to destroy them.
All leaders of the world should send their armies and destroy these lowlifes in a week. The world has enough armies, to destroy groups like these brutally, so that anyone who want to be a terrorist will think twice about that. Omg we arr not in the year -1000, it is 2015.
You know that's just what I have been thinking, is there some reason to keep these wars going, is there someone making money out of it all ?.
 

raph

Member
You know that's just what I have been thinking, is there some reason to keep these wars going, is there someone making money out of it all ?.

Yeah, Im not a conspiracy believer but this stinks somehow.

But probably people are just too scared and lazy. Yeah, we will lose some lifes and money in a war vs. ISIS. humanity is fighting stupid wars all thr time, but if theres a chance for a good war, nobody does anything.

Judging from the number of agents, the Isis has in the west, another 9.11 is coming. Maybe theb the west will react.

Butn them alive
 
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