Is There a Real Left Wing in America?

[dust1n]

It's interesting that these folks have associated their movement with the flag of a government which ultimately failed miserably.

I didn't see anyone wave any country's flag.

 

[Revoltingest]

I didn't see anyone wave any country's flag.

I saw the hammer & sickle near the end, but not being waved.
Dang! I don't think we have a flag at all.....need to look into that.

 

[dust1n]

I saw the hammer & sickle near the end, but not being waved.
Dang! I don't think we have a flag at all.....need to look into that.

☭ is not synonymous with Russia. It was used before the Soviet Union to signify solidarity between peasants and farmers. After a quick Google search, that appears to be the flag of the U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization. The symbol is used on many countries' flags, and thousands of organizations' flags. What is being flown a symbol for Communism, not a symbol for Russia.

 

[Revoltingest]

☭ is not synonymous with Russia. It was used before the Soviet Union to signify solidarity between peasants and farmers. After a quick Google search, that appears to be the flag of the U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization. The symbol is used on many countries' flags, and thousands of organizations' flags. What is being flown a symbol for Communism, not a symbol for Russia.

What a party pooper!
You're over-analyzing tomato's joke.

 

[dust1n]

What a party pooper!
You're over-analyzing tomato's joke.

Sorry, I just didn't see a country's flag.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, I just didn't see a country's flag.

Perfect! That's the great advantage of discussion over debating/arguing.
We each see the same thing, yet each see something different, & both of us are right.

 

[dust1n]

Perfect! That's the great advantage of discussion over debating/arguing.
We each see the same thing, yet each see something different, & both of us are right.

Mmm, I don't know if I can say both of us are right. That is not a Soviet flag. :foot:

 

[Smoke]

Perfect! That's the great advantage of discussion over debating/arguing.
We each see the same thing, yet each see something different, & both of us are right.

Actually, only Dustin is right. It wasn't a Soviet flag.

 

[Revoltingest]

Mmm, I don't know if I can say both of us are right. That is not a Soviet flag. :foot:

Once again, perfect!
You're absolutely right.

Actually, only Dustin is right. It wasn't a Soviet flag.

It's much more interesting to see all the possibilities.

 

[uu_sage]

My observation is that the two major parties of Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin. The Democrats are the Republicans of 30 years ago (center right) while the Republicans have fallen off the right wing reactionary fringe thanks to the Tea Parties and the Religious Right.

There are a few prophetic voices among the Democrats and Republicans. For the Republicans it is Olympia Snow, Jim Leach, and Lincoln Chafee. For the Democrats it is Dennis Kucinich, Barbara Lee, and John Conyers

Thank God I'm a part of the Green Party.

 

[Sunstone]

Both political parties today are dominated by people who are in the pockets of the uber-rich, the banks, and the corporations. That's to say, so many of today's political leaders lack any left or right, liberal or conservative political convictions and are instead mere puppets.

 

[Smoke]

Both political parties today are dominated by people who are in the pockets of the uber-rich, the banks, and the corporations. That's to say, so many of today's political leaders lack any left or right, liberal or conservative political convictions and are instead mere puppets.

There is still a real left wing in the House of Representatives, and he is married to Elizabeth Kucinich.

 

[dust1n]

There is still a real left wing in the House of Representatives, and he is married to Elizabeth Kucinich.

Don't forget Bernie!!

 

[Sunstone]

There is still a real left wing in the House of Representatives, and he is married to Elizabeth Kucinich.

Thank goodness for Dennis.

He was once a participant in a nationally televised presidential debate along with a ton of other candidates. In polling after the debate, it was discovered that those watching preferred him over all the others. So, the next time they had a presidential debate, ABC (I think it was) sponsored the debate and refused to allow him to participate. Damn left wing media, Smoke!

 

[Reverend Rick]

Both political parties today are dominated by people who are in the pockets of the uber-rich, the banks, and the corporations. That's to say, so many of today's political leaders lack any left or right, liberal or conservative political convictions and are instead mere puppets.

Are these not the people who could get the economy going again and create jobs?

Surely you don't believe the government can create enough sustainable jobs in the future do you?

Honestly, what I see here is 20% of Americans wanting to control the other 80%.

The American voter has spoken and they are not Liberal.

 

[Smoke]

Are these not the people who could get the economy going again and create jobs?

Apparently not. Look at the results.

 

[sandandfoam]

Both political parties today are dominated by people who are in the pockets of the uber-rich, the banks, and the corporations. That's to say, so many of today's political leaders lack any left or right, liberal or conservative political convictions and are instead mere puppets.

Look to Ireland to see where that will bring you.
'Capitalism' is a privitisation of profit and a socialisation of losses. To the extent that it has bankrupt a country. Ruined a generation.
Banker is the dirtiest word I know. It should really come out as ******

 

[Sunstone]

Are these not the people who could get the economy going again and create jobs?

They don't have much of a track record these days, do they Rick. They seem to be the folks who, rather than create jobs for us, ship jobs overseas for the Chinese. Of course, like you, they still brag they create jobs for us -- but the brag is becoming obvious to more and more folks.

 

[cynic2005]

I think this question is self-defeating. The absence of a true "left" means either:

1. There is no right, either. Left and right are terms of differentiation. If Right is opposite nothing, there's no point in using "right" to describe anyone.
2. Barack Obama is the same as the "right wing" people. Is that true?

Also, those on the left frequently refer to the "right" in political discussions. If they are not, in fact, left, then what are they talking about?

We are talking about an ideological continuum with arbitrary divisions called "left" "center" "right," etc. So left and right are not really opposites, they are only given that attribute as a means of classifying political ideology.

Why is there no left wing? I would say that there are multiple reasons... Marginalization, stigmatization, propaganda, indoctrination, sheer stupidity of the majority, etc...
Also:
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/1986----.htm