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Is there a need for religion?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Where Is God, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. *Anne*

    *Anne* Bliss Ninny

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    To clarify: I wasn't referring to charities run by the Church specifically. I was focusing on what I thought was the broader question: Humans working together for the greater good. (Which, now that I think about it, is straying off topic a bit. Sorry!)

    Regarding churches and taxes, I don't know a thing about it.
     
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  2. Orias

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    Nor was I.

    When everyone tries to do what they think is "good" and for the greater cause of humanity we a get a whole bunch of nonesense and violence. Simply because "good" is an unobjective stance that only relates to the person and not the whole.
     
  3. strikeviperMKII

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  4. Orias

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    I would tend to agree, though the leaders of many major religions only sophisticate and condemn themselves with fundamentalism.

    It is saddening seeing such separation among the ranks of Man.

    It is possible to coexist with Opposition and survive, but the means are only justified by the end of all actions.

    Man is too complicated to figure himself out :thud:
     
  5. bob gill

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    there are many religions and beliefs but there can be only be one truth and this truth affects every one on this planet
     
  6. Riverwolf

    Riverwolf Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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    Why is that?
     
  7. bob gill

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    doesnt your belief try and tell you what you are destined for
     
  8. Riverwolf

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    It speaks of a summit, and of many paths up the mountain that ultimately reach it.
     
  9. Where Is God

    Where Is God Creator

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  10. Riverwolf

    Riverwolf Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
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    Not really. Sounds rather like the physical aspect of the Yogic Yama (restraint) of Ahimsa. ^_^
     
  11. bob gill

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    thats what im getting at riverwolf your belief is that there is a summit that you are destined for others might have the belief that they will be reicarnated others believe they will go to heaven still others believe that man will destroy himself and be exstinct like the dinosaurs with no god to save them how do you determine who is right and who is wrong therefore there can be only one truth the world and humans are destined for something so whatever happens it will affect all the moment of truth.
     
  12. Witch9

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    While it is true that religion is a way of life for many today, and it's thus unlikely that all religions will disappear any time soon, if they could (i.e. when they do) disappear there is no reason why they would have to resurrect. This is because there is a difference between religion and spirituality, and the former is not required for the latter. In fact, religion can interfere with evolved, Cosmic spirituality.

    To cite Sri Aurobindo's The Divine Life, many humans create religion as a shortcut to dealing with moral dilemmas. Further, while they may be connected, religious codes are not synonymous with spirituality, which is "an awakening to the inner reality of our being, to a spirit, self, soul which is other than our mind, life and body" and brings about "a whole transformation of our whole being."

    Aurobindo suggests that religion relates to "mental evolution", not to Cosmic evolution, and awakening of the spirit and integration of the fact that we are all one.

    Because this awakening is not likely today does not mean it is impossible. In fact integral evolutionaries (and I'm not talking about Darwin) believe it is inevitable, and in fact is already manifesting in today's world. And it will bring the end of organized religions as they exist today.
     
  13. kutulu

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    religion exists because people wish to understand.
    religion is basically a science. people establish basic truths and try to build upon them.
    sadly people as a whole are extremely selfish and stupid and so it is often used as a weapon, or followed blindly without considering if the truths they are based upon are actually true
     
  14. Riverwolf

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    Every one of these beliefs is a certain level on the mountain, which is the final destiny of all Souls.

    But who knows? Perhaps mankind will destroy himself before these bodies get the chance, and are replaced by less violent bodies for that chance. Perhaps heaven is one more step up the mountain.

    Therefore, all of them become possibilities.
     
  15. strikeviperMKII

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    Quite so. Yes, religions do interfere. But sometimes you have to interfere with something before you know it is there. Religion will exist, in one form or another, because it is a step in the process.
     
  16. opuntia

    opuntia Religion is Law

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    If you assume that all people who practice religion understand it well you would be wrong. The reason we have so much trial and error with people of religion is that they do not understand religion as they should. If all those people truly understood religion they would be the most peaceful people in the world and those who are religion-less would be the blame for all the earth's woes.

    People need guidelines, rules or some other form of restriction in order to produce some form of moralistic society. Unless there is something that says it is wrong to harm others, people will follow their own will and chaos will rule. There has to be a unifying factor, even amongst a secular society.
     
  17. Riverwolf

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    Right, but religion isn't the only source of ethical and moral thinking and acting.
     
  18. The Sum of Awe

    The Sum of Awe Realitarian

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    Religion is fine to have, I like its stories and morals, and such.
     
  19. Orias

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    I agree, the problem with religion is the fundamentalists :D
     
  20. Sweetvoice

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    Religion is needed, much like a doctor is needed when we are sick. When we experience the unbearables in life or near death, etc we seek religions as a way to our problems - preceived or otherwise.
     
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