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Is the Speak (word) of God a creature ?

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
The Word of God is not a creature

The Word of God is part of God and I will prove it in practice

Imagine if I said I believe in God
Then an enemy came and cut off my hand and wrote with my catted hand
I am not a believer in God
what's the result ؟
Am I a believer sure

Speech has become part of the most important human organs

And so it applies to the Creator and I do not mean insult, but education requires examples

God said to someone I forgive you
I cut off the hand of God and wrote it out, I do not forgive this person

Then GOD says: I will Forgive him, and I will write, I will not forgive
Angels will obey who?

If you say that the hand has not become part of God after catted
The same as some claim
God is all creature and does not deserve to be a God or qualify to be GOD
this is proof that god speech is a part of GOD
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sounds like you believe God to be a physical creature, and the word of God to be part of that creature originally.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Sounds like you believe God to be a physical creature, and the word of God to be part of that creature originally.

God is a Creator and not a creature
But I want to point out that the word of God is part of God and we can not underestimate God's words

I am sure that God is a Creator and some sects in Muslims believe that the Qur'an is a creature Llike the Torah and the Gospel

When I write topic 666 in which physical revelation is a tool to reach the truth that God is one

REGARDS ^_^
 
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j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Sounds like you believe God to be a physical creature, and the word of God to be part of that creature originally.

Words written in holy books are a reference to the Word of God

Some say how the Torah book is by my hand, this means God

Ink and Paper Creature
The language in which the word of God is written by His creature
But the Word of God is in fact part of God and not creature
we are translating the Word of God in our language

God sent down a sign in many languages so that they would know what he was saying

herbew
Arabic
Serian
Greek
All languages have been formed for nations needs

hmmm I hope you understands my mean
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Words written in holy books are a reference to the Word of God

Some say how the Torah book is by my hand, this means God

Ink and Paper Creature
The language in which the word of God is written by His creature
But the Word of God is in fact part of God and not creature
we are translating the Word of God in our language

God sent down a sign in many languages so that they would know what he was saying

herbew
Arabic
Serian
Greek
All languages have been formed for nations needs

hmmm I hope you understands my mean
I'm not sure that i do understand your meaning. It sounds as though you say that the "word of God" is part of "God" but why that would be is unclear to me. For example I am the creator of my word, it is not a part of me that was chopped off.

I think that the Quran may even refer to Jesus as a word of God, "...Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary" (The Quran (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 3:45)
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I also don't believe in a "God creature" or as I call it an antropomorphic god that looks human or has human-like behavior.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
The Word of God is not a creature

The Word of God is part of God and I will prove it in practice

Imagine if I said I believe in God
Then an enemy came and cut off my hand and wrote with my catted hand
I am not a believer in God
what's the result ؟
Am I a believer sure

Speech has become part of the most important human organs

And so it applies to the Creator and I do not mean insult, but education requires examples

God said to someone I forgive you
I cut off the hand of God and wrote it out, I do not forgive this person

Then GOD says: I will Forgive him, and I will write, I will not forgive
Angels will obey who?

If you say that the hand has not become part of God after catted
The same as some claim
God is all creature and does not deserve to be a God or qualify to be GOD
this is proof that god speech is a part of GOD
You are bringing a proof from a physical being to a non-physical being. This is not a good way to prove something. A person has a tongue, is that proof that G-d has a tongue?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The Word of God is not a creature

The Word of God is part of God and I will prove it in practice

Imagine if I said I believe in God
Then an enemy came and cut off my hand and wrote with my catted hand
I am not a believer in God
what's the result ؟
Am I a believer sure

Speech has become part of the most important human organs

And so it applies to the Creator and I do not mean insult, but education requires examples

God said to someone I forgive you
I cut off the hand of God and wrote it out, I do not forgive this person

Then GOD says: I will Forgive him, and I will write, I will not forgive
Angels will obey who?

If you say that the hand has not become part of God after catted
The same as some claim
God is all creature and does not deserve to be a God or qualify to be GOD
this is proof that god speech is a part of GOD

What are you asking us who have different faiths?

How do you want us to contribute to your OP?
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
What are you asking us who have different faiths?

How do you want us to contribute to your OP?
You are bringing a proof from a physical being to a non-physical being. This is not a good way to prove something. A person has a tongue, is that proof that G-d has a tongue?
I also don't believe in a "God creature" or as I call it an antropomorphic god that looks human or has human-like behavior.



God is nothing like Him
God is not material
God is the creator of matter and does not need explanation

For those who do not believe in God simply
Let the topic be set aside
This topic is for those who only care

But I will give you proof of those who believe that the Word of God is created
What I have written is simple to explain and I think

I can not talk about something that is not mentioned in the Qur'an to say that God has a tongue
This is an insult to God's self
 
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j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
I'm not sure that i do understand your meaning. It sounds as though you say that the "word of God" is part of "God" but why that would be is unclear to me. For example I am the creator of my word, it is not a part of me that was chopped off.

I think that the Quran may even refer to Jesus as a word of God, "...Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary" (The Quran (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 3:45)


Mohamed comes with more glad tiding also

about jesus
If we start counting, we will start from number one
Thus, life began with the number one, the Lord
Each number is found after the number one is a creature (comes from number one THE Existence) and not qualify to be god Because the advantage of God he has not created

God is one, and one is indivisible

Man has a religious lust as a sexual lust and desire for food and wants to practice worship for something tangible material and does not want to worship for something that does not exist with the eye


In the Gospel there is no saying, I am Jesus the Lord
They are all manipulated
The evidence is that there are controversies between the Christians themselves and those who doubt the divinity

The Gospel of Barnabas was found in Turkey and his age before the Prophet Muhammad
Speaks about the Prophet Muhammad

https://www.siasat.com/news/1500-ye...esees-prophet-muhammads-pbuh-arrival-1371465/

I do not pretend to lie
This is a scientific fact that a book was found before Mohammed
I am a sane and aware of many things in my life,
But the things that challenge my convictions can not be understood

The Prophet Abraham did not worship Jesus and was not believed by the Trinity
Imagine that God tells people to worship one God
Then they say, worship the Trinity
Imagine God changing a major law
For this I believe that God is not qualified to be God

REGARD (^_^)
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
God is nothing like Him
God is not material
God is the creator of matter and does not need explanation

For those who do not believe in God simply
Let the topic be set aside
This topic is for those who only care

But I will give you proof of those who believe that the Word of God is created
What I have written is simple to explain and I think

I can not talk about something that is not mentioned in the Qur'an to say that God has a tongue
This is an insult to God's self
If G-d is not material, then you can't bring a proof from a material being unless you can prove that both G-d and humans work the same in this area - and that's the thing you're trying to prove.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
The Word of God is not a creature

The Word of God is part of God and I will prove it in practice

Imagine if I said I believe in God
Then an enemy came and cut off my hand and wrote with my catted hand
I am not a believer in God
what's the result ؟
Am I a believer sure

Speech has become part of the most important human organs

And so it applies to the Creator and I do not mean insult, but education requires examples

God said to someone I forgive you
I cut off the hand of God and wrote it out, I do not forgive this person

Then GOD says: I will Forgive him, and I will write, I will not forgive
Angels will obey who?

If you say that the hand has not become part of God after catted
The same as some claim
God is all creature and does not deserve to be a God or qualify to be GOD
this is proof that god speech is a part of GOD
Yes, there is no way that the Word of God is a creature. The Word of God is God.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
I think he's using an analogy. The point here is that God is one with His Word. God can't be compared to us humans who may separate ourselves from our words. We may in fact lie. God doesn't do that. Whatever speech God makes is expression of Himself.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Mohamed comes with more glad tiding also

about jesus
If we start counting, we will start from number one
Thus, life began with the number one, the Lord
Each number is found after the number one is a creature (comes from number one THE Existence) and not qualify to be god Because the advantage of God he has not created

God is one, and one is indivisible

Man has a religious lust as a sexual lust and desire for food and wants to practice worship for something tangible material and does not want to worship for something that does not exist with the eye


In the Gospel there is no saying, I am Jesus the Lord
They are all manipulated
The evidence is that there are controversies between the Christians themselves and those who doubt the divinity

The Gospel of Barnabas was found in Turkey and his age before the Prophet Muhammad
Speaks about the Prophet Muhammad

https://www.siasat.com/news/1500-ye...esees-prophet-muhammads-pbuh-arrival-1371465/

I do not pretend to lie
This is a scientific fact that a book was found before Mohammed
I am a sane and aware of many things in my life,
But the things that challenge my convictions can not be understood

The Prophet Abraham did not worship Jesus and was not believed by the Trinity
Imagine that God tells people to worship one God
Then they say, worship the Trinity
Imagine God changing a major law
For this I believe that God is not qualified to be God

REGARD (^_^)
Respectfully, you mention a lot of different non-related topics all at once, have you ever considered focusing on one topic at a time?
I feel sure you will create much less confusion if you do.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
It occurs to me that the OP is making the argument of Mutazlism, just without any context.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Respectfully, you mention a lot of different non-related topics all at once, have you ever considered focusing on one topic at a time?
I feel sure you will create much less confusion if you do.

i'm sorry
Brother
My reason for being here is for mercy
I mean to save others and their happiness, and that is my belief
What I wrote was not an attack or a love of hurt
But I have become human in love with help
I apologize because I bothered you
I wish you a happy day
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
If G-d is not material, then you can't bring a proof from a material being unless you can prove that both G-d and humans work the same in this area - and that's the thing you're trying to prove.

Yes, I can measure some of the things that people practice with God
As an example I will give you a simple easy subject

for who accept to have a associates in worship with God like idolaters or others
an example for you, from your own selves: do you make your servants full partners in the wealth We have given you? Do you revere them as you revere one another? We thus explain the revelations for a people who understand.


For those who believe that there is more than one Lord

God cites the example of a man shared by partners at odds, and a man belonging exclusively to one man. Are they equal in status? Praise be to God, but most of them do not know.


The purpose of these examples is to know that you as a human being do not accept insulting but you are ignorant of doing an insult to God and believes that this is normal and true
 
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