Sorry djamila... but this needs to be done.
I went back and read every post you made in this thread... to see if you did answer my questions. If you want the simple reaction... that would be.. No, you did not answer my questions in any previous thread. I'm sure that's not gonna be enough for you to understand why I don't belive you answered my question. So allow me to prove my point.
Your first post pointed out that you did not accept hadiths. Therfore you do not accept the way we pray, you do not accept praying five times a day. In your second post you tried to explain that the Quran was complete. You also stated that we believe The Hadith to be the word of God... which is a blatant lie. I'm sure you know this because of your vast knowledge of the Quran... but Allah makes mention to the Torah and Injeel and explains that it was inspired by Him, but it is not His complete, infallable word, but there is some truth in those books. We need to sway away from what contradicts with the Quran... hadith does not do such a thing.
After only posting twice you were already tired of having this discussion... which was very odd to me considering you only had two very short posts with very little information explaining your view. So why were you beginning to get annoyed? I find that people get annoyed and frustrated with arguments they know they can't win. Anyway.. in this third post of yours you quoted 6:114-116 aswell as 45:6. Neither of these verses answer my questions. These verses talked about the completeness of the Quran and those who follow doubt and conjecture. Allah has made it clear in many verses of the Quran that the Chrsitians follow doubts and conjecture with books which have been added to and taken away from. Allah is explaining that no man can take away from the Quran nor add to it... how has hadith done this in any way? Also when you quoted 45:6... The Truth explained to you all the meanings of the word Hadith, and you never went back to that topic again.
You were asked these questions;
How do you make salaat?
How do you fast and how do you know what breaks a fast?
How do you know what breakes wudu?
How do you know what to say in salaat?
Why do you believe in the Quran since it was in fact transmitted through the prophet? Why is the Quran more believable than the hadiths that also were transmitted through the prophet?
You didn't even answer one of those questions jamila. You repeated your statement of the Quran being complete... no one has come close to saying that the Quran wasn't complete, but yet you seem to think that's what we're saying. The Quran is the way of life, it tells you what you need to do to be a muslim... you need to pray, you need to fast, you need to believe in one God etc etc... Hadith shows you how to live that guidline.
In your next post you accused The Truth of trying to be your God, and you also told him that what he was saying was the stupidest thing you've ever heard. What was so stupid about him explaining that if your gonna recite the Quran in English, to recite the whole verse in English and not parts of it in Arabic and parts of it in English?
You were asked to give simple yes or no answers and you refused to do so for some reason. Your exact words were "
You said that statement needs to be put into context, I said it didn't".. The truth replied to that statement by with the whole "So woe to worshippers" (Surah 107:4). You went on to get upset at us for believing that you thought that 107:4 was automatically put into context... what else were we supposed to think when you said such things as "
You said that statement needs to be put into context, I said it didn't".... Apparantly it was us who just didn't understand, but it's you who can't explain yourself properly at this point in time... you having a hard time explaining yourself caused you to flip out and change your words from what I've quoted above to
"I
did not say you can take one verse from the Koran and automatically understand it; it's common sense that you cannot."... but that's not what you said at first, and you were trying to make it seem like you did, because you cleary did state that you can take one verse from the Quran and understand it.."
You said that statement needs to be put into context, I said it didn't"....
You then continued to prove that the Quran had never been changed, and that it's complete... you were constantly proving something that you didnt need to prove djamila.. we all know this... we all agree with this. How does hadith take away from the Quran jamila? Hadith are stories of the prophet who lived the life in which the Quran has set out for us.. we can learn from this.
You continued in the next post to say that following Bukharis hadith makes us demons.. lol.
You say you follow the Quran as closely as possible, but yet you told everyone on this forum that you follow the Bosnian way of Islam, and that drinking alcohol isn't prohibited in Islam..... ???????
You then proceeded to say the shocking quote of the year which was "Praying five times a day is a cultural thing, and not a part of Islam.. very interesting... first time I've heard that one.
So... I've now looked through all of your posts like you asked... and I still have questions which all I want is a simple answer to.
How do you fast and how do you know what breaks a fast?
How do you know what breakes wudu?
How do you know what to say in salaat?
Why do you believe in the Quran since it was in fact transmitted through the prophet? Why is the Quran more believable than the hadiths that also were transmitted through the prophet?
"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, leave it. And fear Allah: truly Allah is severe in punishment. " [
Qur'an 59:7]
How would we know what the Prophet has given us, and what he forbids us if it wasn't for Hadith? I know God has set out what is forbidden in the Quran, but he also makes it clear that the way of life which Muhammed lived, and what he swayed away from.. we too should sway away from... and Alhumduileh we are able to learn about his life through Hadith.
Do you listen and learn from an imams speech?
How do you know how to perform salat?
I am trying to understand jamila... not insult you... I just want to know where you're coming from, and what you do as a muslim... because I am very certain that you do things which come from Hadith,... and I dont understand how you can do such a thing when you don't agree with it. I dont want to ridicule you or call you a bad person... I just want to understand.. and you explaining to me the completeness and perfection of the Quran is something I already understand.. how does Hadith take away from that?
Peace and Blessings
Ezzu