This is getting interesting,, it seems that this is heading in the direction of population sustainability, and God is certainly necessary to explain what the problem is, and to adopt His solution, at present the earth is capable of sustaining a population several time higher than the one we have, the problem is distribution, and science is failing us, the main reason is that scientists have not come up with a solution, they tackle the problem by producing more and more goods, but has no solution for the distribution issue, there are countries destroying over production rather than give it away to those in need (a loveless act) God solution is LOVE love your neighbour as you love yourself tomspug is right the problems that we face, the problems that generations past have faced has little to do with religion, it has to do with economics and politics.
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Is the Concept of God Necessary To Explain Anything?
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Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
My daughter knew of no such thing. She had no concept but that her Daddy was magically getting her to fun places.
I hate to quote Jay but... go back and read what I'd wrote.
Circular nonsense. :slap:
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
The engine may have been there, but my daughter had no concept of one.
You confuse the truth with the perception of the truth. The lack of the latter does not negate the former.
Our belief or non-belief of God has little bearing on his existence or non-existence.
Your disbelief is about as compelling as a theist's belief.
Ouch!
So the engine proves necessary to explain the car's motion. You're not faring very well in this thread, Pete. :no:
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
But the engineers who constructed it must have.
No, I just don't belivee in "the truth" as different from truth.
Our belief is dependent upon our information. If we have good information of God, then there is no reason we should not believe in God (and vise versa).
Your disbelief is not compelling at all.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Not at all. You are confused about what is NECCESARY for the car to operate. My daughter demonstrates that with or without an explanation, the car still runs. Someone told me that those engines are just myths. Another told me that there is no engine and that the car just motivates itself.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Engineers have been denounced as myths. These cars evolved with absolutely NO outside intervention. A million years ago they were merely motorcycles.
Few do. It takes humility to understand that your perception of the truth is like looking into a mirror dimly.
Our belief is dependent on our perceptions and the culmination of our experiences. Our beliefs may intersect with the truth as a line intersects with a plane, but much of what we think is true is false.
Oh, I believe in the engine... especially the little engine that thought it "could"
What is the difference between "runs" and "operates"?
(By the way, you REALLY don't win any points by using the word "just" with "myth" around me, who knows what a myth really is.)
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
This is the stuff of jihads! Men have debated and fought over lesser concepts.
I didn't know that we were keeping score!
She's the lady at the bar... "Oh myth?"
I'm sorry. As someone who knows what myth actually means, the word does not denounce anything.
Evolved? Doesn't that very concept imply a cause? Or... perhaps you misunderstand the concept?
Yes. Yes, you do misunderstand the concept.
No argument there. That is what information, and its consequent belief, is.
If something is not true, we do not believe it. We only believe in things that are true; things that are untrue, we disbelieve.Our beliefs may intersect with the truth as a line intersects with a plane, but much of what we think is true is fallacious. Oh, I believe in the engine... especially the little engine that thought it "could"
And they've not!
Wha...? Are you using the word in a different context than has a religious significance, perhaps?
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Such things were said to the likes of the early scientists. Some were poisoned and some were killed in other more intriguing ways.
Sounds like it would make a great movie.
The concept is that of an all powerful, all knowing, merciful loving being, goodness itself, and since our intellect moves us toward what is good, and since our happiness is in God, we are moved to Him, God is essential for many peoples (billion of believer)