Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

[Sees]

Yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been copied/plagiarized from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 108: Al-Kauthar

[108:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[108:2] Surely We have given thee abundance of good;
[108:3] So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
[108:4] Surely, it is thy enemy who is without issue.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please try your luck to prove that this chapter has been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah.

If one cannot; then it certifies that Quran has not been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world. Quran is original and authored by G-d.

Regards

Who has ever said the whole/entire Qur'an is a product of copy, plagiarism, borrowing, etc?

You are creating an imaginary opponent.

Who would even write down such a thing as this chapter in the old days as there is not much to it in way of grandeur or inspiration? It could have come from any theist, past or present - prophet or no prophet.

 

[DawudTalut]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islamic mythology

Islam shares the creation myth of Judaism and Christianity


Deluge and Noah's (Nuh's) Ark- worldwide flood-event with a water vessel containing the remains of humanity and a set of all animals


Garden of Eden - the heavenly Paradise where Adam and Eve lived before their Fall


Michael - the angel of nature

Angels - beings of light that serve as God's messengers; in Islam, these lack free will


Islamic mythology is the body of traditional narratives associated with Islam from a mythographical perspective


All Plagiarized

And this is taught to the whole world by credible sources as the truth .

Peace be on all.

Ahmadiyya Muslims' understanding of Holy Quran about creation plus guided evolution:

QUOTE:

""
....
....
The Quran and Cosmology

Entropy and the Finite Universe

The Quran and Extraterrestrial Life


Life in the Perspective of Quranic Revelations—A Brief Introductory Chapter

Origin of Life—Different Theories and Propositions

The Jinn

The Essential Role of Clay and Photosynthesis in Evolution

Survival by Accident or Design?

Chirality or Sidedness in Nature

Natural Selection and Survival of the Fittest

A Game of Chess or a Game of Chance!

The Future of Life on Earth

Organic Systems and Evolution

The 'Blind Watchmaker' Who Is Also Deaf and Dumb


Unveiling of the "Unseen" by the Quran—A Historic Perspective

Nuclear Holocaust

Genetic Engineering

The Plague

The AIDS Virus
....
....

All major issues which intrigue the modern mind are attempted to be incorporated in this fascinatingly comprehensive statute. Whatever the intellectual or educational background of the reader, this book is bound to offer him something of his interest. It examines a very diverse and wide range of subjects including the concept of revelation in different religions, history of philosophy, cosmology, extraterrestrial life, the future of life on earth, natural selection and its role in evolution. It also elaborately discusses the advent of the Messiah, or other universal reformers, awaited by different religions. Likewise, many other topical issues which have been agitating the human mind since time immemorial are also incorporated.

The main emphasis is on the ability of the Quran to correctly discuss all important events of the past, present and future from the beginning of the universe to its ultimate end. Aided by strong incontrovertible logic and scientific evidence, the Quran does not shy away from presenting itself to the merciless scrutiny of rationality. ""

Source: Revelation, Rationality, Knowledge & Truth [by Ahmadiyya Muslim Khalifah IV (ra)]

 

[outhouse]

Source

Was biased apologetics


And changes nothing about how your religion plagiarized the bible.

About its mythological content, and pseudo history.

 

[outhouse]

Great so some stuff was made up, congratulations. While ignoring the stuff that was copied.

Im not sure he has the intellect to understand or comprehend what the word plagiarized really means in context.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

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[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah


Yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been copied/plagiarized from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 107: Al-Ma`un

[107:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[107:2] Hast thou seen him who rejects religion?
[107:3] That is the one who drives away the orphan,
[107:4] And urges not the feeding of the poor.
[107:5] So woe to those who pray,
[107:6] But are unmindful of their Prayer.
[107:7] They like to be seen of men,
[107:8] And withhold legal alms.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please try your luck to prove that this chapter has been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture.

If one cannot; then it testifies that Quran has not been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world. Quran is original and authored by G-d.

Regards

 

[gnostic]

Copy? As in "exact copy"? Then no, definitely not.

Adapted, yes.

You do know what "adapted" mean in literature, paarsurrey?

Adapted or adaptation mean only using selective parts of the original text, and keeping some part of those in original form, but changing other part through adding something new to it, or leaving out part, or completely changing the context of it.

Adaptation can also mean two or more different sources, and mixing them together.

The Qur'an never tell a complete narrative of any biblical story. Often they are shorter, abbreviated versions, distorted and disjointed, and often even more clumsily retold than the narratives in the bible.

To give some examples of these adaptations made by Muhammad, in the Qur'an:

1. The original story tell of Abraham nearly sacrificing his son Isaac (Genesis 22), in Qur'an 37:100-111, the son become Ishmael. Clearly, this is adaptation.
2. Allah telling angels to bow to his creation, Adam, but Satan (Iblis) refused to, being the reason for Satan banishment from heaven, doesn't appear in Genesis 2 & 3.
   This is also adaptation, but Muhammad drew this story from another non-canonical source - the Aggadic Midrashim (or, also known as the Aggadah). The Aggadah is a rabbinic exegetical text, not mean to be taken seriously, because it contained folklore, fables, myths.
3. The Qur'an's story of talking animal or only Solomon being able to talk to or command these animals, also draw from the same sources - Midrash or Aggadah. This ridiculous fable doesn't appear in Solomon's story in 1 Kings.
4. Abraham finding a new home for Hagar and Ishmael, in Mecca, Arabia, is clearly Muhammad's own invention.
   In Genesis, Abraham banished them, leaving Hagar to find a new home for her son, without aid from Abraham.

These adaptation, to already well-known stories, come from Muhammad's interactions with Jews and Christians throughout his entire life, and the changes were made to promote his own self-proclamation of his "prophethood".

This is self-evident by his shameless claim to be descendant of Abraham through Ishmael.

 

[outhouse]

Copy? As in "exact copy"? Then no, definitely not.

Adapted, yes.

he has been explained this ad nauseum.


I prefer plagiarized over adapted

 

[paarsurrey]

he has been explained this ad nauseum.


I prefer plagiarized over adapted

First you used the word "copy"; as far as I remember.
Didn't you?

Regards

 

[outhouse]

First you used the word "copy"; as far as I remember.
Didn't you?

Regards

You have been explained this ad nauseam.


Plagiarized is a form of copying.

 

[outhouse]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islamic mythology

Islam shares the creation myth of Judaism and Christianity


Deluge and Noah's (Nuh's) Ark- worldwide flood-event with a water vessel containing the remains of humanity and a set of all animals


Garden of Eden - the heavenly Paradise where Adam and Eve lived before their Fall


Michael - the angel of nature

Angels - beings of light that serve as God's messengers; in Islam, these lack free will


Islamic mythology is the body of traditional narratives associated with Islam from a mythographical perspective


All Plagiarized

And this is taught to the whole world by credible sources as the truth .

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Copy? As in "exact copy"? Then no, definitely not.

Adapted, yes.

You do know what "adapted" mean in literature, paarsurrey?

Adapted or adaptation mean only using selective parts of the original text, and keeping some part of those in original form, but changing other part through adding something new to it, or leaving out part, or completely changing the context of it.

Adaptation can also mean two or more different sources, and mixing them together.

The Qur'an never tell a complete narrative of any biblical story. Often they are shorter, abbreviated versions, distorted and disjointed, and often even more clumsily retold than the narratives in the bible.

To give some examples of these adaptations made by Muhammad, in the Qur'an:

1. The original story tell of Abraham nearly sacrificing his son Isaac (Genesis 22), in Qur'an 37:100-111, the son become Ishmael. Clearly, this is adaptation.
2. Allah telling angels to bow to his creation, Adam, but Satan (Iblis) refused to, being the reason for Satan banishment from heaven, doesn't appear in Genesis 2 & 3.
   This is also adaptation, but Muhammad drew this story from another non-canonical source - the Aggadic Midrashim (or, also known as the Aggadah). The Aggadah is a rabbinic exegetical text, not mean to be taken seriously, because it contained folklore, fables, myths.
3. The Qur'an's story of talking animal or only Solomon being able to talk to or command these animals, also draw from the same sources - Midrash or Aggadah. This ridiculous fable doesn't appear in Solomon's story in 1 Kings.
4. Abraham finding a new home for Hagar and Ishmael, in Mecca, Arabia, is clearly Muhammad's own invention.
   In Genesis, Abraham banished them, leaving Hagar to find a new home for her son, without aid from Abraham.

These adaptation, to already well-known stories, come from Muhammad's interactions with Jews and Christians throughout his entire life, and the changes were made to promote his own self-proclamation of his "prophethood".

This is self-evident by his shameless claim to be descendant of Abraham through Ishmael.

---
my friend
if you meaning

the islame copy story from another book same bibl and
toraht
and change the meaning or original story
that is tr
the story of jeuss born
the story of yousef
the story of yonan --younes
i accept you

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah


I give below another Chapter from Quran; a short one.

The Holy Quran : Chapter 106: Al-Quraish

[106:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[106:2] Because of the attachment of the Quraish &#8212;
[106:3] His making them attached to their journey in winter and summer &#8212;
[106:4] They should worship the Lord of this House,
[106:5] Who has fed them against hunger, and has given them security against fear.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online


Please rove that this chapter has been copied or plagiarized or adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

If one cannot; then one proves that Quran has not been copied or plagiarized or adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world. Quran is original and authored by God; as it claims.

Regards

 

[outhouse]

Please rove

Please rove that adam, moses, noah, Abraham, god, jesus, were NOT first jewsih and Christian religious concepts.

 

[paarsurrey]

Please rove that adam, moses, noah, Abraham, god, jesus, were NOT first jewsih and Christian religious concepts.

And how would you comment on the following:

"Replacing Ziusudra with Noah, Enki with Adam, Sargon of Akkad with Moses and Aten with Yahweh, the Hebrew scribes gave the world one of its most inconsistent and confusing books ever. In a cunning way, the Hebrew scribes, as they wrote down the scripture of their Bible, had plagiarized the ancient Near Eastern wisdom and claimed it theirs.

Copying the ancient and profound Egyptian/Mesopotamian mythology by a bunch of mysterious Hebrew scribes was, from my perspective, the beginning of deterioration of the human religious thinking." Unquote

Hebrew Bible: Plagiarized Mythology and Defaced Monotheism | Pyramidion

Regards

 

[outhouse]

the Hebrew scribes gave the world one of its most inconsistent and confusing books ever.

That is what is said about your book. The difference is Jews and Christians are not killing each other over the confusion the way muslims do on their own book.

 

[gnostic]

And Muhammad tell his own version of the biblical stories in the Qur'an. So if the Hebrew/Christian scriptures are "inconsistent and confusing", then why is the Qur'an is based on these same books, and of the same characters?

Man, you don't even realise it, but you have just trash the Qur'an of being "inconsistent and confusing" too, by quoting this webpage. :biglaugh:

 

[gnostic]

And Muhammad tell his own version of the biblical stories in the Qur'an. So if the Hebrew/Christian scriptures are "inconsistent and confusing", then why is the Qur'an is based on these same books, and of the same characters?

Man, you don't even realise it, but you have just trash the Qur'an of being "inconsistent and confusing" too, by quoting this webpage. :biglaugh:

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I have so far quoted following short chapters from Quran in this thread:

107. Al-Ma`un
108. Al-Kauthar
109. Al-Kafirun
110. Al-Nasr
111. Al-Lahab
112. Al-Ikhlas
113. Al-Falaq
114. Al-Nas
1. Al-Fatihah

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah.

I give yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 106: Al-Quraish

[106:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[106:2] Because of the attachment of the Quraish —
[106:3] His making them attached to their journey in winter and summer —
[106:4] They should worship the Lord of this House,
106:5] Who has fed them against hunger, and has given them security against fear.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please try another time to prove that this chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture.

If one cannot; then it testifies that Quran has not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world. Quran is original and authored by G-d.

One is welcome to try your luck please.

Regards

 

[outhouse]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islamic mythology

Islam shares the creation myth of Judaism and Christianity


Deluge and Noah's (Nuh's) Ark- worldwide flood-event with a water vessel containing the remains of humanity and a set of all animals


Garden of Eden - the heavenly Paradise where Adam and Eve lived before their Fall


Michael - the angel of nature

Angels - beings of light that serve as God's messengers; in Islam, these lack free will


Islamic mythology is the body of traditional narratives associated with Islam from a mythographical perspective


All Plagiarized

And this is taught to the whole world by credible sources as the truth .